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Leamington new ground

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:01 am
by JE93
Saw this thread from Leamington FC on Twitter last night regarding their new ground. Lots to be jealous of, not least the level of support from Warwick District Council. If only DFC could get some real strong local government support behind us and build the football club into the local plan.

https://twitter.com/LeamingtonFC/status ... dAEJg&s=19

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:59 pm
by Yarblockos
Cost of £13.8m, funded through Government investment zone (I don't know how this works) to Warwick District Council, Leamington then buy the ground for 450K and then give back to WDC.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:23 pm
by loan_star
Darlington has a new community stadium already, home of Darlington Town.
I cant see any more money being available for another community stadium.
The longer it goes on, the less likely it will be that we get our own ground.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:46 pm
by Ghost_Of_1883
JE93 wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:01 am
Saw this thread from Leamington FC on Twitter last night regarding their new ground. Lots to be jealous of, not least the level of support from Warwick District Council. If only DFC could get some real strong local government support behind us and build the football club into the local plan.

https://twitter.com/LeamingtonFC/status ... dAEJg&s=19
As if our Labour council will be interested in helping us out at all.

Our only chance was keeping the Tories in until spades went into the ground.

Turkeys voting for Xmas, reap what you sow, short sighted, myopic etc etc.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:16 pm
by Spyman
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:46 pm
JE93 wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:01 am
Saw this thread from Leamington FC on Twitter last night regarding their new ground. Lots to be jealous of, not least the level of support from Warwick District Council. If only DFC could get some real strong local government support behind us and build the football club into the local plan.

https://twitter.com/LeamingtonFC/status ... dAEJg&s=19
Our only chance was keeping the Tories in until spades went into the ground.
Just like HS2 :lol:

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:42 pm
by loan_star
Spyman wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:16 pm
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:46 pm
JE93 wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:01 am
Saw this thread from Leamington FC on Twitter last night regarding their new ground. Lots to be jealous of, not least the level of support from Warwick District Council. If only DFC could get some real strong local government support behind us and build the football club into the local plan.

https://twitter.com/LeamingtonFC/status ... dAEJg&s=19
Our only chance was keeping the Tories in until spades went into the ground.
Just like HS2 :lol:
Darlington Council, under Labour, have always favoured the rugby teams in the area. When you see what Mowden get away with on big events, especially with parking, you can see the obvious bias. Even match day parking for them is free whereas we were told we had to charge!

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:34 am
by jjljks
Don't forget the Council gave us the new all-weather pitch/car park built on former cattle market site! Zero potholes there. Wasted opportunity for a stadium

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:20 am
by loan_star
jjljks wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:34 am
Don't forget the Council gave us the new all-weather pitch/car park built on former cattle market site! Zero potholes there. Wasted opportunity for a stadium
The land footprint wasn’t big enough for a stadium.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:37 am
by H1987
loan_star wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:42 pm
Spyman wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:16 pm
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:46 pm
JE93 wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:01 am
Saw this thread from Leamington FC on Twitter last night regarding their new ground. Lots to be jealous of, not least the level of support from Warwick District Council. If only DFC could get some real strong local government support behind us and build the football club into the local plan.

https://twitter.com/LeamingtonFC/status ... dAEJg&s=19
Our only chance was keeping the Tories in until spades went into the ground.
Just like HS2 :lol:
Darlington Council, under Labour, have always favoured the rugby teams in the area. When you see what Mowden get away with on big events, especially with parking, you can see the obvious bias. Even match day parking for them is free whereas we were told we had to charge!
Aye, the Tories were just about to build us a new ground imminently. Mayor Airport was poised to put spades in the ground at any moment. They just ran out of time.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:44 am
by Lawman3
Am I right in thinking that the Leamington ground will be all seater (unclear from the plans)?

I think we would need to preserve terrracing in any future stadium (and possibly half time migration), i would imagine that would cut the cost too. One big stand, and 3 tin sheds would be sufficient for our purposes at present. Of course, the big obstacle is suitable land, and funding (which has little to do with the political hue of the council, as much as people wish to reduce the discussion to that).

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:35 pm
by spen666
Lawman3 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:44 am
Am I right in thinking that the Leamington ground will be all seater (unclear from the plans)?

. .
Only main stand seated the rest is covered standing I believe they tweeted during the meeting

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:49 pm
by loan_star
Lawman3 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:44 am
Am I right in thinking that the Leamington ground will be all seater (unclear from the plans)?

I think we would need to preserve terrracing in any future stadium (and possibly half time migration), i would imagine that would cut the cost too. One big stand, and 3 tin sheds would be sufficient for our purposes at present. Of course, the big obstacle is suitable land, and funding (which has little to do with the political hue of the council, as much as people wish to reduce the discussion to that).
Ironically DJ said we would be best not getting Labour back in as it might hinder any progress on the ground. Since Labour have got back in we have heard zero more info on any progress. That’s why I think it’s now dead in the water.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:05 pm
by Yarblockos
loan_star wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:49 pm
Lawman3 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:44 am
Am I right in thinking that the Leamington ground will be all seater (unclear from the plans)?

I think we would need to preserve terrracing in any future stadium (and possibly half time migration), i would imagine that would cut the cost too. One big stand, and 3 tin sheds would be sufficient for our purposes at present. Of course, the big obstacle is suitable land, and funding (which has little to do with the political hue of the council, as much as people wish to reduce the discussion to that).
Ironically DJ said we would be best not getting Labour back in as it might hinder any progress on the ground. Since Labour have got back in we have heard zero more info on any progress. That’s why I think it’s now dead in the water.
i think Labour are dependent on the Greens to get votes through, which probably isn't going help.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:31 pm
by darlo_baron
Without a decent ground or a vision to secure one I’m not entirely sure where we are going as a club. Even at this level it arguably has the worst away end in the league. I actually stood at the open end for the first time yesterday and it’s absolutely grim.

For me this is priority 1 after this season is over and fans deserve an update, wherever negative or positive. Should loan_star’s instincts be correct it will be a huge hammer blow and ambitions to progress to a better level will be unachievable for years to come.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:19 pm
by Yarblockos
darlo_baron wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:31 pm
Without a decent ground or a vision to secure one I’m not entirely sure where we are going as a club. Even at this level it arguably has the worst away end in the league. I actually stood at the open end for the first time yesterday and it’s absolutely grim.

For me this is priority 1 after this season is over and fans deserve an update, wherever negative or positive. Should loan_star’s instincts be correct it will be a huge hammer blow and ambitions to progress to a better level will be unachievable for years to come.
DJ is up for election at the AGM but he will have no new update on the ground situation at the AGM. I think if he had good news he'd want to share it.

I would like the board to be honest about our alternatives to a new ground. It seems like they throw out blockers to support their view we can only progress by buidling a brand new ground, but the alternatives seem more realistic the longer it goes on. Are DRFC seriously opposed to any further building on BM for example, or is that just a good excuse? Don't throw around incorrect statements about why we can't move to the Arena, if you fell out with MPRFC then just say so. I'm not convinced that plans to build a retail park, hotel, and six-a-side pitches just to generate enough money to make the repayments on a new ground is the best option.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:53 pm
by ralphb
Darlington Town have gained support from DBC, apparently spending £1.6m on a new ground at Hundens!

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:45 pm
by Beano
ralphb wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:53 pm
Darlington Town have gained support from DBC, apparently spending £1.6m on a new ground at Hundens!
Given this, I cannot see any public funding for anything outside of that location.

I can't see us building a ground from scratch without a lottery winner donating seven figures.

I'm no expert in this field, but surely we'll have to look at more pragmatic alternatives that involve piggy backing on other schemes or existing facilities?

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:00 pm
by Ghost_Of_1883
But how have Darlington Town got help from the council and not us?

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:13 pm
by bga
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:00 pm
But how have Darlington Town got help from the council and not us?
Check the date of the post maybe.....

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:13 pm
by lo36789
Have Darlington Town received funding?

Or is Eastbourne being developed and Darlington Town happen to play at Eastbourne?

Are we sure it isn't just this....

https://www.darlington.gov.uk/your-coun ... m/?id=1631

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:17 pm
by Ghost_Of_1883
bga wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:13 pm
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:00 pm
But how have Darlington Town got help from the council and not us?
Check the date of the post maybe.....
Oh yeah.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:05 pm
by loan_star
Darlington Town got a grant that went towards the cost of the new facility and have the right to play there but as far as I am aware, its not their ground.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:34 pm
by Maurice_Peddelty
loan_star wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:05 pm
Darlington Town got a grant that went towards the cost of the new facility and have the right to play there but as far as I am aware, its not their ground.
My understanding is that the Football Foundation grant was awarded to Darlington Borough Council (as landlord and project promoter) and this was subject to the Council having agreements with a number of community partners, which includes Darlington Town, Middleton Rangers, Darlington FC Women as well as others.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:53 pm
by loan_star
Maurice_Peddelty wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:34 pm
loan_star wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:05 pm
Darlington Town got a grant that went towards the cost of the new facility and have the right to play there but as far as I am aware, its not their ground.
My understanding is that the Football Foundation grant was awarded to Darlington Borough Council (as landlord and project promoter) and this was subject to the Council having agreements with a number of community partners, which includes Darlington Town, Middleton Rangers, Darlington FC Women as well as others.
Yes there are other partners that also got grants towards the overall cost. I mentioned the fact Town had got a grant as they had been mentioned already up the thread.

Re: Leamington new ground

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:07 am
by Maurice_Peddelty
loan_star wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:53 pm
Maurice_Peddelty wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:34 pm
loan_star wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:05 pm
Darlington Town got a grant that went towards the cost of the new facility and have the right to play there but as far as I am aware, its not their ground.
My understanding is that the Football Foundation grant was awarded to Darlington Borough Council (as landlord and project promoter) and this was subject to the Council having agreements with a number of community partners, which includes Darlington Town, Middleton Rangers, Darlington FC Women as well as others.
Yes there are other partners that also got grants towards the overall cost. I mentioned the fact Town had got a grant as they had been mentioned already up the thread.
The grant from the Football Foundation for the new stadium at Eastbourne was awarded to the body responsible for the delivery of the project and for its future operation and maintenance, which is Darlington Borough Council. If you have been told otherwise from someone at Darlington Town, then you have been misled.