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[JasonDeVos]

Wonder if someone will ask why a fan owned community club has yet again become part of the Tory PR machine??

Was it another free shirt given out??

[AndyPark]

Wonder if someone will ask why a fan owned community club has yet again become part of the Tory PR machine??

Was it another free shirt given out??

Thought the same myself. Not happy with it

[MB86DFC]

Wonder if someone will ask why a fan owned community club has yet again become part of the Tory PR machine??

Was it another free shirt given out??

Maybe as they’re the government in charge of the country, town and region council, and our MP is Tory, it is a good idea to see what we can get from them?

[JasonDeVos]

Wonder if someone will ask why a fan owned community club has yet again become part of the Tory PR machine??

Was it another free shirt given out??

Maybe as they’re the government in charge of the country, town and region council, and our MP is Tory, it is a good idea to see what we can get from them?

Absolutely- let’s just pimp the club out and see what we get (or don’t).

[EDJOHNS]

4. The unattractive nature of our level (Kettering at home on a January Saturday afternoon hardly screams glamour).

Do you think that Stevenage, Barrow or Harrogate have any more glamour attached to them?

This isn't actually aimed directly at you particukarly. Should have been positioned "Does anyone think that..."

Barrow, home or away should always be a must get to if I can for every Darlo fan since 2012. A lot of us will never forget that day and I think many have a lasting affection for the club because of the days full events Especially that banner.

Ps pretending I am someone who loves to argue with you, what the devil does particukarly mean?

[theoriginalfatcat]

Is this relevant ED? To the fans forum and the future outlook?

[EDJOHNS]

Not as we do, where the rugby club get most of the profit and we only get a % of the take.

Agree - but we also carry none of the risk. They pay all the costs of sales including staffing whether things are sold or not so they are entitled to some profit.

Seem to recall we increased prices by whatever it was to increase our cut and it lead to uproar that the rugby club would have the cheek to not provide us that service at cost.

I did not point this out to rekindle any argument over the rugby club. I was simply pointing out that other clubs have financial streams not available to us in the situation we find ourselves in, and this was an easy 1 that comes to mind.
At the Kcom everything is itemised. Neither club pays the entire costs. The stadium has a set number of staff on a daily basis,(all area's), that cost is covered by the clubs' rents. Then all extra staff needed for matchdays, food and drink used, etc are accurately billed to each club.
Likewise, both clubs gain income via the pitchside electronic boards that we do not have running all around the pitch. Go to a rugby match and you will see totally different add's on the boards compared to the football club. Each club pays a % of the upkeep of the boards and keeps the profit after that.

[MB86DFC]

Wonder if someone will ask why a fan owned community club has yet again become part of the Tory PR machine??

Was it another free shirt given out??

Maybe as they’re the government in charge of the country, town and region council, and our MP is Tory, it is a good idea to see what we can get from them?

Absolutely- let’s just pimp the club out and see what we get (or don’t).

This thread has literally been about how the club can advance, improve the stadium, etc. And then as soon as the club talks to the Secretary of State for SPORT people moan about it. It probably was a PR stunt by Nadine Dorries, but how do you know the chat wasn’t about future development grants? If it was and the club had done nothing because they were scared of offending political sensibilities (in a town which has voted Tory) people would moan about that too. It seems those in charge can’t win

[lo36789]

Barrow, home or away should always be a must get to if I can for every Darlo fan since 2012.

Haha no doubt - but I am still not sure I'd call it glamorous!

[EDJOHNS]

Is this relevant ED? To the fans forum and the future outlook?

Only in so far as they reached out to a fellow club. Much of the discussion has been about reaching out into the community. After the way we were treated that day I would always buy a few extra bits when I go, and if over there I would go to see them rather than a club close to them. Thus, (my thinking), the "reaching out" can have a positive effect

[bga]

Wonder if someone will ask why a fan owned community club has yet again become part of the Tory PR machine??

Was it another free shirt given out??

If DJ thinks it is an opportunity to speak to the DCMS Secretary of State and put forward the views of a community owned Club and the challenges we face then I think it's a good move on our behalf.

[H1987]

It’s one thing communicating with whoever forms the government of the day and it’s quite another handing out free shirts and posing in photo ops. I don’t think we should be doing it with the next Labour government either, by the way. It’s inappropriate, particularly as a fan owned club, because those photos very much look like taking a side, whether that is the intention or not.

[MB86DFC]

It’s one thing communicating with whoever forms the government of the day and it’s quite another handing out free shirts and posing in photo ops. I don’t think we should be doing it with the next Labour government either, by the way. It’s inappropriate, particularly as a fan owned club, because those photos very much look like taking a side, whether that is the intention or not.

Try getting a public official anywhere without the promise of a photo op. Necessary evil in my opinion

[quaker4life]

It’s one thing communicating with whoever forms the government of the day and it’s quite another handing out free shirts and posing in photo ops. I don’t think we should be doing it with the next Labour government either, by the way. It’s inappropriate, particularly as a fan owned club, because those photos very much look like taking a side, whether that is the intention or not.

You've got nothing to worry about there, Labour are unelectable.

[bga]

It’s one thing communicating with whoever forms the government of the day and it’s quite another handing out free shirts and posing in photo ops. I don’t think we should be doing it with the next Labour government either, by the way. It’s inappropriate, particularly as a fan owned club, because those photos very much look like taking a side, whether that is the intention or not.

Seriously does anyone really think she would have actually come away with the shirt! As regards the photos and taking sides. Sorry I don't read it that way at all I read it as part of trying to influence the decision makers currently in power end of.

[Darlobill]

Dorries is as thick as pig s*** even the Torys don’t like her, with all that’s going on with Johnson and the lies this i feel will be a PR disaster and alienate many fans.

[H1987]

It’s one thing communicating with whoever forms the government of the day and it’s quite another handing out free shirts and posing in photo ops. I don’t think we should be doing it with the next Labour government either, by the way. It’s inappropriate, particularly as a fan owned club, because those photos very much look like taking a side, whether that is the intention or not.

You've got nothing to worry about there, Labour are unelectable.

Look at the polls and cry more

[JasonDeVos]

Dorries is as thick as pig s*** even the Torys don’t like her, with all that’s going on with Johnson and the lies this i feel will be a PR disaster and alienate many fans.

For me it’s one thing doing a PR exercise with a minister (Tory or Labour - that’s not my point), it’s another doing it with one who’s views are for me against everything a community club stands for.

[H1987]

It’s one thing communicating with whoever forms the government of the day and it’s quite another handing out free shirts and posing in photo ops. I don’t think we should be doing it with the next Labour government either, by the way. It’s inappropriate, particularly as a fan owned club, because those photos very much look like taking a side, whether that is the intention or not.

Seriously does anyone really think she would have actually come away with the shirt! As regards the photos and taking sides. Sorry I don't read it that way at all I read it as part of trying to influence the decision makers currently in power end of.

I’d argue it’s even worse if she didn’t walk away with the shirt because then it’s gone in the bin?

[quaker4life]

It’s one thing communicating with whoever forms the government of the day and it’s quite another handing out free shirts and posing in photo ops. I don’t think we should be doing it with the next Labour government either, by the way. It’s inappropriate, particularly as a fan owned club, because those photos very much look like taking a side, whether that is the intention or not.

You've got nothing to worry about there, Labour are unelectable.

Look at the polls and cry more

I couldn't resist it

On a serious note though I'm glad Comrade Corbyn got nowhere near Downing Street, if he had we'd be stuck in perpetual restrictions with no way out of them.

[Geordie Quaker]

As a woke leftie loony, I was obviously rarther pissed off to see the latest PR escapade. Dorries is a despicable individual who has demonstrated multiple views (including xenophobic ones) that we should seek to disassociate oursevles with, not reward with a shirt and some free PR.

I like to be pragmatic and think "maybe the club is trying to build relationships with stakeholders", but if anyone connected to DFC thinks that the Conservatives give a fook about us then they are clearly deluded.

I would have (genuinely) felt the same way if we had pimped ourselves out to Chapman when Darlo was red.

[shildonlad]

Theres a few clubs in the higher reaches of non league who dont own there grounds, halifax, chester and gateshead been prime examples but they wont need to spend much (if anything) to upgrade them to football league standards. Im struggling to thonk of clubs who have poured loads of money into a ground they share with someone else in order to get into the football league or even national league

[quakersfan]

As a woke leftie loony, I was obviously rarther pissed off to see the latest PR escapade. Dorries is a despicable individual who has demonstrated multiple views (including xenophobic ones) that we should seek to disassociate oursevles with, not reward with a shirt and some free PR.

I like to be pragmatic and think "maybe the club is trying to build relationships with stakeholders", but if anyone connected to DFC thinks that the Conservatives give a fook about us then they are clearly deluded.

I would have (genuinely) felt the same way if we had pimped ourselves out to Chapman when Darlo was red.

Dorries is the last Johnson fan standing can’t believe club thought this was a good idea.

[MCFCDarlo3]

Hope she swings some influence in helping us get our own ground.

Well done DJ as ever.

[Darlogramps]

What a massive overreaction from some leftie-bedwetters.

No sensible fan would see any issue with this. It’s just politically intolerant people who’ll complain about anything from someone whose politics differs to theirs.

I despise Dorries and Johnson and want them out of office. But the Secretary of State responsible for sport visiting the club isn’t a bad thing.

I’d suggest if any fan claims to be “alienated” by us speaking to the Secretary of State for sport, they’d be “alienated” by quite a lot of other things too.

And the idea that speaking to the Culture Secretary (whose remit football falls under) is somehow making us politically biased - just laughable.

[Darlobill]

Sometimes Gramps you have to make a stand IMO this will back fire until the Sue Grey & Met Police enquiry is published.

[Old Git]

Not a fan of Nadine Dorries by any means but she is Secretary of State for Sport and as such it would be remiss of DJ to pass up the opportunity of a meeting with her. Like it or not the Tories are the party in Government and therefore the decision makers. If Labour were in power then it would be appropriate to meet with their minister.
Criticism of DJ for meeting her is simply stupid. It is not a political endorsement to simply have a meeting. There may be no long term benefit for the club, but it can’t do any harm to at least exchange views with her. You never know what could happen as result.

[loan_star]

I would have (genuinely) felt the same way if we had pimped ourselves out to Chapman when Darlo was red.

But we did! Please help us save our club Jenny. Please help us get back to Darlo Jenny.
I didn’t see anyone complain about her involvement as it was for the benefit of the club.
However if a Tory does it the left wing bedwetters have a fit.

[JasonDeVos]

I would have (genuinely) felt the same way if we had pimped ourselves out to Chapman when Darlo was red.

But we did! Please help us save our club Jenny. Please help us get back to Darlo Jenny.
I didn’t see anyone complain about her involvement as it was for the benefit of the club.
However if a Tory does it the left wing bedwetters have a fit.

You don’t have to be a left wing bedwetter to not agree with it

[Darlobill]

I would have (genuinely) felt the same way if we had pimped ourselves out to Chapman when Darlo was red.

But we did! Please help us save our club Jenny. Please help us get back to Darlo Jenny.
I didn’t see anyone complain about her involvement as it was for the benefit of the club.
However if a Tory does it the left wing bedwetters have a fit.

Apparently Jenny was very helpful but she didn’t spend 24hours on Facebook and Twitter telling us what she had done that day.!!