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 Post subject: Fans are the key
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:26 pm 
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It may be stating the obvious, but fans are the key to the success of Darlington Football Club going forward. And how many clubs, even at League 2 level and above, have the potential of five different supporters groups driving us forward?

We have the Supporters' Club, Darlo Tykes, Uncovered and DAFTS, who undoubtedly have crossover membership but cover just about every facet and every region of the country; and then add the Supporters' Trust to the mix. The possibilities are endless with these groups working individually and collectively to ensure the football club not only survives but prospers.

I look forward to the Trust becoming an important partner with the football club and other supporters organisations and then all pulling in the same direction. Your skills and drive, your contacts and know how will ensure this club succeeds.


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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And £40K will be a huge assist too!

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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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Fans need to back this club , need to stop being consumers and move this community club forward. We all need to think of how we can be part of it , be it investing or volunteering ?


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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darlotoon wrote:
Fans need to back this club , need to stop being consumers and move this community club forward. We all need to think of how we can be part of it , be it investing or volunteering ?

spot on

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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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And how many clubs, even at League 2 level and above, have the potential of five different supporters groups driving us forward?


Is that a real benefit - five different factions, who as we've seen don't always pull in the same direction - so for that reason I'd imagine the answer isn't many as most clubs will be have got their acts together and be happy to have one group and one group only


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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Enigma wrote:
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And how many clubs, even at League 2 level and above, have the potential of five different supporters groups driving us forward?


Is that a real benefit - five different factions, who as we've seen don't always pull in the same direction - so for that reason I'd imagine the answer isn't many as most clubs will be have got their acts together and be happy to have one group and one group only


They do essentially all work together to the one main aim


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:09 pm 
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Hmmm - I'll believe that when they come together as one - including the Trust


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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Enigma, do you ever actually say anything positive because I'd love to hear it. Your just a doom-monger. Believe it when you see it eh?

Uncovered - raised 20k, paid players, paid for food for Barrow trip
SuppClub - raised a great amount through bucket collections and other fundraising
Dafts - again great fundraisers
Tykes - filled I think around 10 VIP boxes on at least two occasions recently, ran raffles and I think a race night

Don't think you can say they aren't pulling together. A new board has been appointed to the Trust tonight so hopefully they can move forward now

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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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darlotoon wrote:
Fans need to back this club , need to stop being consumers and move this community club forward. We all need to think of how we can be part of it , be it investing or volunteering ?


What about just turning up and paying to watch footy. Where do those people fit in? The ones who don't have time, can't be bothered, don't want to put in the extra work?

Not trying to sound negative, but as I've said before I don't feel comfortable with ranking amongst fans. I've done this, he's done that, what have YOU done etc etc.

I'm reinvesting my money, don't get me wrong and I'm bang back onside with this club I think, but what if all I want to do is just watch games and have a good drink (a la the last gods knows how many years)?

If this is deemed too negative for a positive world then I apologise and won't object if this post is removed.

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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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To get the club moving forward and back to where fans want it to be fundraising and volunteering is going to have to be a part of it , we no longer have a backer we are the only backers of the club at this minute. (Unfortunately heavy drinking sessions in the bars isn't going to be enough ,no matter how much we've all been driven to it :) )


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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darlotoon wrote:
To get the club moving forward and back to where fans want it to be fundraising and volunteering is going to have to be a part of it , we no longer have a backer we are the only backers of the club at this minute. (Unfortunately heavy drinking sessions in the bars isn't going to be enough ,no matter how much we've all been driven to it :) )


Yeah fair enough, I wasn't having a go in my other post, just pointing out that there will already be a list of precious types dying to shout from the rooftops about how much they've done and how the rest of us should have a good look at ourselves etc etc.

Not you btw :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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Mullet69 wrote:
darlotoon wrote:
Fans need to back this club , need to stop being consumers and move this community club forward. We all need to think of how we can be part of it , be it investing or volunteering ?


What about just turning up and paying to watch footy. Where do those people fit in? The ones who don't have time, can't be bothered, don't want to put in the extra work?

Not trying to sound negative, but as I've said before I don't feel comfortable with ranking amongst fans. I've done this, he's done that, what have YOU done etc etc.

I'm reinvesting my money, don't get me wrong and I'm bang back onside with this club I think, but what if all I want to do is just watch games and have a good drink (a la the last gods knows how many years)?

If this is deemed too negative for a positive world then I apologise and won't object if this post is removed.


Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with this kind of attitude from people and it's got to be expected that different people will want to get involved in different ways (investment, volunteering, other community projects) and to different extents.

I think we need to ensure that there's a decent level of volunteers in all aspects of the club, so we're not relying on the same people over and over, but also we need to make sure that nobody is being looked down on for having less hands on involvement in helping the club.


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:12 pm 
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Mullet69 wrote:
darlotoon wrote:
To get the club moving forward and back to where fans want it to be fundraising and volunteering is going to have to be a part of it , we no longer have a backer we are the only backers of the club at this minute. (Unfortunately heavy drinking sessions in the bars isn't going to be enough ,no matter how much we've all been driven to it :) )


Yeah fair enough, I wasn't having a go in my other post, just pointing out that there will already be a list of precious types dying to shout from the rooftops about how much they've done and how the rest of us should have a good look at ourselves etc etc.

Not you btw :thumbup:

And similarily not having a go , it's more a reaction to the people who complain and whinge over things but aren't willing to do anything about it. Probably see you in a pub in Shildon somewhere soon :)


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:24 pm 
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Mullet69 wrote:
darlotoon wrote:
To get the club moving forward and back to where fans want it to be fundraising and volunteering is going to have to be a part of it , we no longer have a backer we are the only backers of the club at this minute. (Unfortunately heavy drinking sessions in the bars isn't going to be enough ,no matter how much we've all been driven to it :) )


Yeah fair enough, I wasn't having a go in my other post, just pointing out that there will already be a list of precious types dying to shout from the rooftops about how much they've done and how the rest of us should have a good look at ourselves etc etc.

Not you btw :thumbup:


To be honest, we need people to turn up, pay their entrance fee and have a drink and hopefully we'll have many more who do this. :clap:

The problem is our immediate future.
If we sit back and allow things to take care of themselves we are finished.
It is up to all of the fans to save the club, and yes, a way of doing that is to make sure you turn up at Shildon next season, pay your entrance fee and have a drink.
Anyone who supports our club in any way is helping our survival.

Nobody has any right to tell you "I am doing more than you because I have done all this or all that, or I have put X amount of money in and I have put in more than you..." - well out of order, and there are too many posts on here where people are feeling they need to qualify their remarks by a "...by the way, I am a shareholder/season ticket holder etc..."

Remember, we had the 3 Stooges who said they had done, this, that and the other and put millions in - and hey, let's throw a stadium in while we're at it - all of this money and talk got us right where we are today.

My only gripe is doom-mongers, moaners and those who are knocking the efforts of others.

Please, just come along, watch the game and have a drink, maybe bring along a friend who is a lapsed fan, who was one of those put off by the 3 Stooges and the big stadium.
Now that would be an great way to help save the club!


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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This ties in with the pricing thread many do just want a game a beer but too high a price will lose these fans too Im afraid


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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QuakerPete is right - it is down to the fans to make this a success. Nobody is propping the club up now (if that is what recent owners did!) and every fan counts whether they raise additional cash or turn up for games, or both. I think it's the way ahead for a lot of clubs, and an increasing number are following the community model.


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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Enigma wrote:
This ties in with the pricing thread many do just want a game a beer but too high a price will lose these fans too Im afraid


Is it cold and damp under that bridge where you live? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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Enigma wrote:
This ties in with the pricing thread many do just want a game a beer but too high a price will lose these fans too Im afraid


Is it cold and damp under that bridge where you live? :lol:


He's right though.

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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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The admission fee for next season is one of the hottest and most in-focus topics at this present time.
Fan power is coming to the fore with regards this and the actual price structure, once agreed, will be an early test of how well the fans are doing in running the club ongoing.

Problem is, there are several trolls who are posting and re-posting the same argument and the enigmatic Mr Enigma is one of these!


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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Mr_Tibbs wrote:
The_Ponderer wrote:
Enigma wrote:
This ties in with the pricing thread many do just want a game a beer but too high a price will lose these fans too Im afraid


Is it cold and damp under that bridge where you live? :lol:


He's right though.


I know I am its a shame more people cant see it wood for the trees comes to mind


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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You're still a doom-mongering troll though.

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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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Is that the definition on here for realists who speak sense?


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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The_Ponderer wrote:
Mullet69 wrote:
darlotoon wrote:
To get the club moving forward and back to where fans want it to be fundraising and volunteering is going to have to be a part of it , we no longer have a backer we are the only backers of the club at this minute. (Unfortunately heavy drinking sessions in the bars isn't going to be enough ,no matter how much we've all been driven to it :) )


Yeah fair enough, I wasn't having a go in my other post, just pointing out that there will already be a list of precious types dying to shout from the rooftops about how much they've done and how the rest of us should have a good look at ourselves etc etc.

Not you btw :thumbup:


To be honest, we need people to turn up, pay their entrance fee and have a drink and hopefully we'll have many more who do this. :clap:

My problem with your post is that you are a "New Recruit" onto this Board - and therefore I do not trust you. - you have only made 70 odd posts.

Many of us have been here for many years

The problem is our immediate future.
If we sit back and allow things to take care of themselves we are finished.
It is up to all of the fans to save the club, and yes, a way of doing that is to make sure you turn up at Shildon next season, pay your entrance fee and have a drink.
Anyone who supports our club in any way is helping our survival.

Nobody has any right to tell you "I am doing more than you because I have done all this or all that, or I have put X amount of money in and I have put in more than you..." - well out of order, and there are too many posts on here where people are feeling they need to qualify their remarks by a "...by the way, I am a shareholder/season ticket holder etc..."

Remember, we had the 3 Stooges who said they had done, this, that and the other and put millions in - and hey, let's throw a stadium in while we're at it - all of this money and talk got us right where we are today.

My only gripe is doom-mongers, moaners and those who are knocking the efforts of others.

Please, just come along, watch the game and have a drink, maybe bring along a friend who is a lapsed fan, who was one of those put off by the 3 Stooges and the big stadium.
Now that would be an great way to help save the club!



My problem with you is that you are such a new poster - less than 80 posts and all in the last few days - suspicious. !!

Many of us were there in 2004 and again in 2009, campaigning and collecting to save the Club then.

Don't tell us that we need to do to save this Club - Some of us have already been doing it for some time.

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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:32 pm 
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Darlo Cockney wrote:
The_Ponderer wrote:
Mullet69 wrote:
darlotoon wrote:
To get the club moving forward and back to where fans want it to be fundraising and volunteering is going to have to be a part of it , we no longer have a backer we are the only backers of the club at this minute. (Unfortunately heavy drinking sessions in the bars isn't going to be enough ,no matter how much we've all been driven to it :) )


Yeah fair enough, I wasn't having a go in my other post, just pointing out that there will already be a list of precious types dying to shout from the rooftops about how much they've done and how the rest of us should have a good look at ourselves etc etc.

Not you btw :thumbup:


To be honest, we need people to turn up, pay their entrance fee and have a drink and hopefully we'll have many more who do this. :clap:

My problem with your post is that you are a "New Recruit" onto this Board - and therefore I do not trust you. - you have only made 70 odd posts.

Many of us have been here for many years

The problem is our immediate future.
If we sit back and allow things to take care of themselves we are finished.
It is up to all of the fans to save the club, and yes, a way of doing that is to make sure you turn up at Shildon next season, pay your entrance fee and have a drink.
Anyone who supports our club in any way is helping our survival.

Nobody has any right to tell you "I am doing more than you because I have done all this or all that, or I have put X amount of money in and I have put in more than you..." - well out of order, and there are too many posts on here where people are feeling they need to qualify their remarks by a "...by the way, I am a shareholder/season ticket holder etc..."

Remember, we had the 3 Stooges who said they had done, this, that and the other and put millions in - and hey, let's throw a stadium in while we're at it - all of this money and talk got us right where we are today.

My only gripe is doom-mongers, moaners and those who are knocking the efforts of others.

Please, just come along, watch the game and have a drink, maybe bring along a friend who is a lapsed fan, who was one of those put off by the 3 Stooges and the big stadium.
Now that would be an great way to help save the club!



My problem with you is that you are such a new poster - less than 80 posts and all in the last few days - suspicious. !!

Many of us were there in 2004 and again in 2009, campaigning and collecting to save the Club then.

Don't tell us that we need to do to save this Club - Some of us have already been doing it for some time.

DC


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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
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@Cockney Boy,
Don't be suspicious! New poster but old fan!
Are you paranoid?

You also "tweaked" my post to make it look like I was popping at someone who had made 70 posts!

You also stuck these lines in:
"My problem with your post is that you are a "New Recruit" onto this Board - and therefore I do not trust you. - you have only made 70 odd posts.
Many of us have been here for many years "

Tsk Tsk!!! Go back and check MY original post!

My cash is among that Trust money when I was also there in 2004 - and yes I was around long before that.
I'm a long standing fan and I am trying to do my bit to save the club and encourage more support next season.
Go back and read my original post.
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 Post subject: Re: Fans are the key
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:35 pm 
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Darlo Cockney wrote:
My problem with you is that you are such a new poster - less than 80 posts and all in the last few days - suspicious. !!

Many of us were there in 2004 and again in 2009, campaigning and collecting to save the Club then.

Don't tell us that we need to do to save this Club - Some of us have already been doing it for some time.

DC


Ah, here comes the biggest, dirtiest, ugliest troll of them all. DC, you are the epitome of everything I hate about the human race. You can't resist getting in the little dig about what YOU have been doing for the cause - what YOU have done in the past. YOu are exactly the type of person I refer to in my posts in this thread. Nothing wrong with getting involved and I've no doubt the work that YOU are doing is top notch and only for the good of the club.

It's just a crying shame that you're such a horrible little man. Now get back under that bridge, it's about to rain. :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:36 pm 
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Darlo Cockney wrote:
The_Ponderer wrote:
Mullet69 wrote:
darlotoon wrote:
To get the club moving forward and back to where fans want it to be fundraising and volunteering is going to have to be a part of it , we no longer have a backer we are the only backers of the club at this minute. (Unfortunately heavy drinking sessions in the bars isn't going to be enough ,no matter how much we've all been driven to it :) )


Yeah fair enough, I wasn't having a go in my other post, just pointing out that there will already be a list of precious types dying to shout from the rooftops about how much they've done and how the rest of us should have a good look at ourselves etc etc.

Not you btw :thumbup:


To be honest, we need people to turn up, pay their entrance fee and have a drink and hopefully we'll have many more who do this. :clap:

My problem with your post is that you are a "New Recruit" onto this Board - and therefore I do not trust you. - you have only made 70 odd posts.

Many of us have been here for many years

The problem is our immediate future.
If we sit back and allow things to take care of themselves we are finished.
It is up to all of the fans to save the club, and yes, a way of doing that is to make sure you turn up at Shildon next season, pay your entrance fee and have a drink.
Anyone who supports our club in any way is helping our survival.

Nobody has any right to tell you "I am doing more than you because I have done all this or all that, or I have put X amount of money in and I have put in more than you..." - well out of order, and there are too many posts on here where people are feeling they need to qualify their remarks by a "...by the way, I am a shareholder/season ticket holder etc..."

Remember, we had the 3 Stooges who said they had done, this, that and the other and put millions in - and hey, let's throw a stadium in while we're at it - all of this money and talk got us right where we are today.

My only gripe is doom-mongers, moaners and those who are knocking the efforts of others.

Please, just come along, watch the game and have a drink, maybe bring along a friend who is a lapsed fan, who was one of those put off by the 3 Stooges and the big stadium.
Now that would be an great way to help save the club!



My problem with you is that you are such a new poster - less than 80 posts and all in the last few days - suspicious. !!

Many of us were there in 2004 and again in 2009, campaigning and collecting to save the Club then.

Don't tell us that we need to do to save this Club - Some of us have already been doing it for some time.

DC



:clap: I was thinking the same, I have no problem with these new fans coming on board as long as they sick around, as I have seen loads come and go all telling me how they are the true fans and I am not, the thing is I`m still here and have been for 30 years.

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@Oh Ted_do,

Are you and Cockney_Dave conjoined twins?

Nothing original from you in this post!


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@Oh Ted_do,

Are you and Cockney_Dave conjoined twins?

Nothing original from you in this post!


They both share similar learning difficulties.


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@Oh Ted_do,

Are you and Cockney_Dave conjoined twins?

Nothing original from you in this post!


Ha ha in a few more years you may get our names right.

I would not of commented but you seem to chip in at every opportunity to comment on my posts, so I thought it was only right to return the favour. :thumbup:

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