Community Engagement

Mazz Javerick · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 4:50 pm

don'tbuythesun wrote:

Second team, why don't you post it on both and keep everyone happy? i still think it's okay on here but don't upset the MB police!

They set up a messageboard specifically for that kind of query, to keep this one less cluttered. How is that hard to understand?

Fatty eats roadkill · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 4:57 pm

As you're probably under a gagging order Mazz, I'll do it for you!

Secondteam stop being a dickweed and post in the relevant forum you imbecile, or just come straight out with it!

Or are you spouting utter cack!

Christophano · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 5:45 pm

craig_mckenna wrote:

I know we said we wouldn't comment in here any more but clearly this quote isn't going to moved over to the ask1883 forum and I cant ignore it.

In our defence, Craig, it has been just a few hours since it was posted, and it's a work day. I'm sure you understand, given your own situation.

Fibonacci0112358 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 5:50 pm

Darlofan97 wrote:

He already did post it on another thread. He just keeps on bringing it back up. It was something to do with the referee's changing room not being big enough or something.

So, the question could be;

Why did the NPL allow BA to play at Shildon?

don'tbuythesun · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 5:51 pm

What part of "community engagement" ie access to the ground and facilities for disabled people don't you understand. I support his right to post on this thread.

Darlofan97 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 5:54 pm

Fibonacci0112358 wrote:

Darlofan97 wrote:

He already did post it on another thread. He just keeps on bringing it back up. It was something to do with the referee's changing room not being big enough or something.

So, the question could be;

Why did the NPL allow BA to play at Shildon?

I have absolutely no idea.

Mazz Javerick · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 5:59 pm

don'tbuythesun wrote:

What part of "community engagement" ie access to the ground and facilities for disabled people don't you understand. I support his right to post on this thread.

Jesus Christ you are dumb arent you? Nothing I wouldnt expect from a Murderers FC sympathiser though.

There is a specific forum for the questions that clown is asking. However, since he is just a troll he's spamming this board up with them.

Fibonacci0112358 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 6:01 pm

Darlofan97 wrote:

Fibonacci0112358 wrote:

Darlofan97 wrote:

He already did post it on another thread. He just keeps on bringing it back up. It was something to do with the referee's changing room not being big enough or something.

So, the question could be;

Why did the NPL allow BA to play at Shildon?

I have absolutely no idea.

Neither do I, yet.

But you would think that if the ground was not up to a certain standard, then BA wouldn't have been able to play there in the first place.

Christophano · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 6:04 pm

Alright guys, surely this argument can stop now, whether you agree with the point or not, I don't think level of vitriol is appropriate.

don'tbuythesun · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 6:08 pm

Mazz, I'm not going to lower myself to your very low level. You are embarrassing and this sort of comment is typical of your ignorance. i can't believe you have to use comments like this. Your mates must think your hilarious, if you have any.

Darlofan97 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 6:08 pm

Fibonacci0112358 wrote:

Darlofan97 wrote:

Fibonacci0112358 wrote:

Darlofan97 wrote:

He already did post it on another thread. He just keeps on bringing it back up. It was something to do with the referee's changing room not being big enough or something.

So, the question could be;

Why did the NPL allow BA to play at Shildon?

I have absolutely no idea.

Neither do I, yet.

But you would think that if the ground was not up to a certain standard, then BA wouldn't have been able to play there in the first place.

I think that Dean Street was graded up to Evo-Stik standard but times have changed. Not 100% certain on that one. Agree on your last point as well.

Mazz Javerick · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 6:15 pm

Christophano wrote:

Alright guys, surely this argument can stop now, whether you agree with the point or not, I don't think level of vitriol is appropriate.

Sorry mate, my bad.

I have a hard time biting my tongue when it comes to supporters of that hypocrite bunch.

don'tbuythesun · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 6:51 pm

Reminds me how hard those people are who don't bite their tongue when they hide behind a keyboard.

super_les_mcjannet · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 7:03 pm

don'tbuythesun wrote:

Reminds me how hard those people are who don't bite their tongue when they hide behind a keyboard.

I thought the disability question and what facilities Shildon has for the disabled is a fair question. However even though Craig popped on here, if you want to guarantee an official answer it needs asking on Ask1883.

mojomojo · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 9:16 pm

I think the model in place at York is an ideal model for any non league club.
Having attended a recent football conference in london I was amazed at the amount of funding available for a community enterprise using football as a 'tool' for community development.

Happy to lend some time and advice if needed, have experience in this area.

al_quaker · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 9:22 pm

mojomojo wrote:

I think the model in place at York is an ideal model for any non league club.
Having attended a recent football conference in london I was amazed at the amount of funding available for a community enterprise using football as a 'tool' for community development.

Happy to lend some time and advice if needed, have experience in this area.

Might be best to PM craig_mckenna if you've got experience in this area. That's if he hasn't spotted this already!

DL5 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 9:43 pm

DL5 wrote:

Hmm, very ambitious and presumably at a cost to try these sort of things at this stage. Wouldn't the time, effort and money be best spent on the team and the core fans and put this on the back burner until we're at least relatively stable?

The_Ponderer wrote:

Did you actually read the story?

Yes, did you actually read my post?

The_Ponderer wrote:

Did you see this line?
"These plans which will keep the football club at the heart of the community and will bring new fans and supporters."

Yes

The_Ponderer wrote:

Do you have a problem with more supporters coming to games?

Stupid question, have a guess

The_Ponderer wrote:

You also seem very suspicious about being "ambitious".
Do you think that by being unambitious we will actually achieve our twin goals of a return to back to town and a place in the Football League?

I think we need to address the basics, ie more or less start a club from scratch before we start lecturing fat people on eating less biscuits

The_Ponderer wrote:

What do you think the "cost" actually is?
1883 and the various fans groups are volunteers.
Have you ever heard of the business phrase "speculate to accumulate"?
In other words, a small investment in time or money now to reap greater rewards (profits) in the future.
If this brings in a couple of hundred more fans then we are far better off.

Cost? no idea, likely to be more than 0 though

Speculate to accumulate? within reason yes and all in good time, now isn't the time, there's higher priorities.

The_Ponderer wrote:

Don't forget just how much the 1883 group have achieved in a very short space of time.

They've done very well and these plans should be implemented maybe a year down the line once the club is up and running properly. It seems there's a huge task at hand without this as an added distraction.

I personally think we'll be ok for support next season and trying to reach out into the diverse Darlington community whilst we're not even based there is just a bit bizarre at this stage of the club's renaissance.

mojomojo · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 9:51 pm

Was / is there a football in the community scheme in place?

we_8_poolie · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 9:58 pm

There was ...but I don't believe there is now

The_Ponderer · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 10:14 pm

@DL5,
So what you're basically saying here, you aren't bothered about an effort being made to get new fans interested (The Young), get old/infirm fans back along to watch games - people who may need assistance to travel to the game and get in the ground.

So you admit, then, to being part of that doom-mongering brigade who want to start the club from scratch?
How do you propose that will be an easier solution than the already difficult situation we are in?

You also didn't answer my question about more supporters coming to games?
You said "stupid question" - does this mean you do want more people to come along, but perhaps not those groups of people listed in the article.
Wrong type of fan perhaps? Bit too "diverse" maybe?

Given that 1883 have sorted out the ground, are well underway in the search for a new manager, are preparing a case for the FA licence, are engaging with sponsors, are making preparations for fans to travel to Shildon and are planning for life beyond next season, you don't think it is worthwhile engaging with certain community groups who just might want to come along an support us?

Let us all hear what you have done for the club today?

DL5 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 10:33 pm

The_Ponderer wrote:

@DL5,
So what you're basically saying here, you aren't bothered about an effort being made to get new fans interested (The Young), get old/infirm fans back along to watch games - people who may need assistance to travel to the game and get in the ground

I'll say it again, yes it's an idea to consider, but not at this moment

The_Ponderer wrote:

So you admit, then, to being part of that doom-mongering brigade who want to start the club from scratch?
How do you propose that will be an easier solution than the already difficult situation we are in?

Doom mongering, do me a favour mate, I'm the one still thinking we would survive whilst still mathematically possible even though it was blatantly obvious we were going down, glass half full, that's me. I never ever wanted to reform, that would be the end for me and DFC.

The_Ponderer wrote:

You also didn't answer my question about more supporters coming to games?
You said "stupid question" - does this mean you do want more people to come along, but perhaps not those groups of people listed in the article.
Wrong type of fan perhaps? Bit too "diverse" maybe?

Oh fucking behave yourself, I'm being "diversist" now am I :lol:

The_Ponderer wrote:

Given that 1883 have sorted out the ground, are well underway in the search for a new manager, are preparing a case for the FA licence, are engaging with sponsors, are making preparations for fans to travel to Shildon and are planning for life beyond next season, you don't think it is worthwhile engaging with certain community groups who just might want to come along an support us?

It seems like they're busy enough already which is exactly my point

The_Ponderer wrote:

Let us all hear what you have done for the club today?

Nothing, I've been on a 10 hour backshift, do you have a problem with that?

charlie · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 10:39 pm

Fact of the matter is this, if we want to succeed we have to engage in the community, hence Scott`s original post.

AndyPark · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 11:41 pm

Can't we just ban this idiot (second team)? Most negative twat on here.

Trying to create a community vibe and all this fucktard is doing, is criticising everything!!!

davidcorks 40yard OG · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 12:04 am

AndyPark wrote:

Can't we just ban this idiot (second team)? Most negative twat on here.

Trying to create a community vibe and all this fucktard is doing, is criticising everything!!!

seconded

Snowscape or Forster 4 sure

princes town · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 8:04 am

davidcorks 40yard OG wrote:

AndyPark wrote:

Can't we just ban this idiot (second team)? Most negative twat on here.

Trying to create a community vibe and all this fucktard is doing, is criticising everything!!!

seconded

Snowscape or Forster 4 sure

Pretty sure it is not snowscape although there is a 'tease' mentality - why did you leave the ground after 10 minutes (2 months later still don't know). Why did BA leave shildon? still don't know. i'd be more confident about getting a straight answer from a politician.

TMan2000 · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 9:20 am

Mazz Javerick wrote:

don'tbuythesun wrote:

What part of "community engagement" ie access to the ground and facilities for disabled people don't you understand. I support his right to post on this thread.

Jesus Christ you are dumb arent you? Nothing I wouldnt expect from a Murderers FC sympathiser though.

There is a specific forum for the questions that clown is asking. However, since he is just a troll he's spamming this board up with them.

What a utter c*** you are!

Just what Darlo needs; someone who has no idea of the facts and spouts utter wank!!

don'tbuythesun · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 11:14 am

Thanks...I was trying to keep it reasonably civil!

Jazz Maverick · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 12:28 pm

Sorry, what facts did I not know?

That Second Team is a troll?
That even if he wasnt there is a specific forum for his questions?

It seems like you're as dozey as Mr I-support-murderers FC and are just chucking general 'lol you dont know anything' generic insults about.

TMan2000 · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 6:12 pm

Jazz Maverick wrote:

Sorry, what facts did I not know?

That Second Team is a troll?
That even if he wasnt there is a specific forum for his questions?

It seems like you're as dozey as Mr I-support-murderers FC and are just chucking general 'lol you dont know anything' generic insults about.

...and that looks exactly like what you've just done. Bell-end!

Jazz Maverick · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 6:33 pm

I dont see what your angle is here.

You've appeared out of nowhere, randomly abused me twice, and made bizarre accusations of 'not knowing facts' and making generic insults.

Do you have anything that makes any sense to say?

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