FAO charlie darlo!

Hilly · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 3:49 pm

Charlie_Darlo wrote:

al_quaker wrote:

Charlie_Darlo wrote:

loan_star wrote:

No matter what the outcome I think Charlie would have complained, just like a minority of other people on here. He was all for starting again in the Northern League, playing at the RA not so long ago.
He changes his mind as often as he changes his pants.

Robbo, I set out alternatives for a phoenix club which I was blasted for, which at one stage included a groundshare at Bishop. What we are getting as a result of "saving DFC" is very little, if at all (we could still be placed lower than the Evostik), better.

I also seem to recall saying the RA wasn't suitable due to its size location. If you can find one of my posts which says different, than apologies.

So your idea was to start again much lower down the pyramid, ground sharing out of Darlington. What has been achieved is pretty much starting again much lower down the pyramid, ground sharing out of Darlington.

The only differences I see are that we've managed to keep our history, which is a bonus. So I'm struggling to understand why are so against it? Unless of course you wanted to be the one leading the club?

What I'm against is being led up the proverbial garden path. 1883 came in replacing the rescue group with this plan to save a senior club and now what we are left with is little different to a phoenix club.

And for the record, I don't want to lead anything. I was foolish enough to suggest and actively explore alternatives, including funding, yet deferred to those supposedly better placed than me.

That was the original plan, Charlie. However it soon became clear that was never going to be feasible with Roadblock Raj in the way.

You have to roll with the punches sometimes. I notice one of your issues was the fact that creditors have been given a bum deal, well they would have been given a bum deal if we ended up as a Phoenix Club too. At least this way, 1883 is hoping to do as much as they can for them.

Quakerz · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 3:51 pm

Charlie_Darlo wrote:

Robbo, I set out alternatives for a phoenix club which I was blasted for, which at one stage included a groundshare at Bishop. What we are getting as a result of "saving DFC" is very little, if at all (we could still be placed lower than the Evostik), better.

So 1883 have delivered your plan + kept the history + paid the players + hopefully we're a league higher than a phoenix club.

Shouldn't you be congratulating 1883 rather than criticising them?

al_quaker · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 3:52 pm

Charlie_Darlo wrote:

al_quaker wrote:

So your idea was to start again much lower down the pyramid, ground sharing out of Darlington. What has been achieved is pretty much starting again much lower down the pyramid, ground sharing out of Darlington.

The only differences I see are that we've managed to keep our history, which is a bonus. So I'm struggling to understand why are so against it? Unless of course you wanted to be the one leading the club?

What I'm against is being led up the proverbial garden path. 1883 came in replacing the rescue group with this plan to save a senior club and now what we are left with is little different to a phoenix club.

And for the record, I don't want to lead anything. I was foolish enough to suggest and actively explore alternatives, including funding, yet deferred to those supposedly better placed than me.

If you believe 1883 have led you up the garden path then you are entitled to your opinion. I however think they've been honest all the way. They started off trying to save the senior club. For reasons outside of their control (which are well documented) this hasn't been the case. The circumstances have changed dramatically since January, which I'm sure everyone is aware of. They've managed to rescue something from this terrible situation. What would you have done differently out of interest?

By the way, I wasn't accusing of wanting to run the club. It's just the only logical explanation I could think of, as to me, thinking 1883 have led people up the garden path isn't particularly logical.

Mazz Javerick · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 4:22 pm

I've been banging this drum for a while, but hopefully you can all see what a bitter, jealous, two faced backstabber Charlie clown shoes is.

He was desperate to dissolve the club at the first opportunity and feather his considerable (and misplaced ego) by heading up a new one. When he was roundly dismissed he threw his toys out the pram and dissapeared, returning only to throw jibes at our attempts to save the club, and to start malicious rumours in aid of undermining 1883s efforts.

comeondarlo · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 4:25 pm

Mazz Javerick wrote:

I've been banging this drum for a while, but hopefully you can all see what a bitter, jealous, two faced backstabber Charlie clown shoes is.

He was desperate to dissolve the club at the first opportunity and feather his considerable (and misplaced ego) by heading up a new one. When he was roundly dismissed he threw his toys out the pram and dissapeared, returning only to throw jibes at our attempts to save the club, and to start malicious rumours in aid of undermining 1883s efforts.

Absolutely spot on

Charlie_Darlo · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 4:27 pm

Mazz Javerick wrote:

I've been banging this drum for a while, but hopefully you can all see what a bitter, jealous, two faced backstabber Charlie clown shoes is.

He was desperate to dissolve the club at the first opportunity and feather his considerable (and misplaced ego) by heading up a new one. When he was roundly dismissed he threw his toys out the pram and dissapeared, returning only to throw jibes at our attempts to save the club, and to start malicious rumours in aid of undermining 1883s efforts.

What malicious rumours did I start about 1883?

Darlofan97 · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 4:28 pm

You said that they 'walked us down the garden path' you fanny.

Charlie_Darlo · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 4:32 pm

Darlofan97 wrote:

You said that they 'walked us down the garden path' you fanny.

How is that a malcious rumour? It is just an opinion.

In my book, malicious rumours are gossip deliberately framed to undermine. What have I said about 1883 or its board that falls into this category?

Mazz Javerick · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 4:32 pm

Theres an entire thread of hints, insinuations, and rumour mongering from you in your 'confidence in 1883' poll you started 5 minutes after they took over.

Do one Charlie you jumped up arse - no one wanted you near the club when you tried your coup in January, no one wants you about now.

Darlofan97 · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 4:34 pm

Charlie_Darlo wrote:

Darlofan97 wrote:

You said that they 'walked us down the garden path' you fanny.

How is that a malcious rumour? It is just an opinion.

In my book, malicious rumours are gossip deliberately framed to undermine. What have I said about 1883 or its board that falls into this category?

Spreading shite like that will put people off.

Charlie_Darlo · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 4:38 pm

Mazz Javerick wrote:

Theres an entire thread of hints, insinuations, and rumour mongering from you in your 'confidence in 1883' poll you started 5 minutes after they took over.

Do one Charlie you jumped up arse - no one wanted you near the club when you tried your coup in January, no one wants you about now.

Come on you who is going to destroy me. Yes, I put up a poll. How is that in itself a rumour?

DarloOnTheUp · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 5:55 pm

Mazz Javerick wrote:

Theres an entire thread of hints, insinuations, and rumour mongering from you in your 'confidence in 1883' poll you started 5 minutes after they took over.

Do one Charlie you jumped up arse - no one wanted you near the club when you tried your coup in January, no one wants you about now.

Yet again I'm agreeing with you Mazz. Why the fuck were you ever banned?

Charlie: go away.

charlie · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 10:43 pm

Folk have to be careful these days now that we live in an age of solicitors letters, libel and deformation of character law suits, accusations have been made on this board and other boards towards individuals which have been grossly untrue and unfair. I suggest people think before they post, everyone is entitled to an opinion and entitled to express it but you have to be willing to back it up in legal terms.
This is just my personal opinion, I have not been approached by any individuals concerned I would just like folk to think before they post.

MKDarlo · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 11:33 am

What are you on about? I don’t understand the last post? Are you suggesting your comments may be interpreted as libel or that you have been subjected to this or both? :wtf:

Maurice_Peddelty · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 11:40 am

charlie wrote:

Folk have to be careful these days now that we live in an age of solicitors letters, libel and deformation of character law suits, accusations have been made on this board and other boards towards individuals which have been grossly untrue and unfair. I suggest people think before they post, everyone is entitled to an opinion and entitled to express it but you have to be willing to back it up in legal terms.
This is just my personal opinion, I have not been approached by any individuals concerned I would just like folk to think before they post.

How can someone that has the anonymity of a user name be the victim of defamatory comments - which I guess is what you're alluding to?

charlie · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 1:20 pm

Once something is in print whether it be on the internet or on paper it is open to interpretation, we all know Scott and co have received solicitors letters because of comments made on this forum in the past. All I`m saying is that if individuals want to spout off about folk on here then any individual has the right to respond in a manner they see fit. Just because individuals havnt reacted this way so far doesnt mean they never would, it is unfair and unjust to accuse people of lying to folk and leading them up the garden path etc etc etc without solid fact to back up their argument.
I`m fed up of it, we are trying to organise a community club. If folk have a problem, ask questions on the 1883 forum, wait for answers - go to the open meeting and ask them in person. Be clear of your facts the sheer hard work, time and commitment 1883 have put into this project gives them the right to be asked questions and given time to answer before being called liar`s

MKDarlo · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 1:27 pm

Charlie - with respect it seems like you are the one with the questions. Pop along to the briefing on Friday at Blackwell and ask them yourself.

charlie · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 1:39 pm

MK I`m not charlie Darlo im just charlie I know all I need to know :-)

and will be reinvesting

Mazz Javerick · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 1:54 pm

I think the important thing to remember is that Charlie_Darlo is a crackpot, and 1883 or anyone else should just ignore his scaremongering.

MKDarlo · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 2:11 pm

charlie wrote:

MK I`m not charlie Darlo im just charlie I know all I need to know :-)

and will be reinvesting

My apologies! It is all getting too much for me.

Dave_from_London · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 8:03 pm

I can't believe you think this is a bad thing. We've still got a club to support so be thankfull for that. Next seaso is gonna be one of the best for a long time

tinshedender · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 8:29 pm

Charlie_Darlo
Drop the Darlo bit from your user name, you don't belong anymore.

super_les_mcjannet · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 8:35 pm

tinshedender wrote:

Charlie_Darlo
Drop the Darlo bit from your user name, you don't belong anymore.

Maybe they could change it to Charlie_Shildon, maybe I am being a bit unfair to Shildon.

Charlie_Darlo · **Posted:** Tue May 08, 2012 9:15 pm

charlie wrote:

Once something is in print whether it be on the internet or on paper it is open to interpretation, we all know Scott and co have received solicitors letters because of comments made on this forum in the past. All I`m saying is that if individuals want to spout off about folk on here then any individual has the right to respond in a manner they see fit. Just because individuals havnt reacted this way so far doesnt mean they never would, it is unfair and unjust to accuse people of lying to folk and leading them up the garden path etc etc etc without solid fact to back up their argument.
I`m fed up of it, we are trying to organise a community club. If folk have a problem, ask questions on the 1883 forum, wait for answers - go to the open meeting and ask them in person. Be clear of your facts the sheer hard work, time and commitment 1883 have put into this project gives them the right to be asked questions and given time to answer before being called liar`s

I've never accused anyone of blatently lying. "Leading up the garden path" to me is, perhaps unintentionally, misleading someone through promises/intentions that don't quite deliver.

1883 usurped the rescue group and led us to believe they would agree a CVA and preserve a senior club in Darlington. They haven't delivered. That's my point. I HAVE NEVER ACCUSED THEM OF LYING!!!

All this is very different to accusing someone of spreading malicious rumours. I'm still waiting for my accuser's evidence of this.

princes town · **Posted:** Wed May 09, 2012 9:07 am

i could have had more sympathy with your arguments about creditors if you had raised these before 1883 took over. My own take is that whilst the 15% model wouldn't have been my preferred option, the whole situation was very messy and it needed strong leadership. 1883 have always done their homework as far as I am concerned and they are transparent where they can be and I respect them for that. They have tried to negotiate a bettter place for us but it simply hasn't worked because of the obstinacy of certain parties. Where we are now is pretty much where I thought we would end up. This club is not about me or you and we all need to get on board. You would be better served channeling your energies through the Trust if you have any misgivings about the ethics of the club. I really didn't like the poll idea at all.

The Love Slug · **Posted:** Wed May 09, 2012 8:20 pm

Charlie darlo, piss off with your cakes and let the proper fans back the club through these dark times. I'm sure you can be a winner at something else now that your dfc coup has come to nothing! You are starting to remind me of ted Forster......

FAO charlie darlo!

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