a bit of info the east stand was dismantled by msd cranes darlington and is still owned by them. Part of the stand is at the darlo depot and the other is in boro this is from the owners mouth so factual, if we are to get a new ground would this not be the ideal stand to get as it held 3000 ??!

Or bits of the Arena which will likely be demolished before too long.

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I take it that Farnborough Town didn't go ahead and buy it then.

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Never made it to Farnborough.

I think MSD said they'd pretty much give it away but there would obviously be significant erection costs (oo-er) which wouldn't be cheap. Would be interesting to see the figure though. That's pretty much all you'd need along with 3 sides of small terracing to play at a decent level.

Agreed and this is a huge development this could save DFC we must get the east stand back we must find some free land in Darlo and we MUST hang on to enough money to get this project started. It all lokks achievable with 250k-400k.
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Perhaps it coud be erected at Feethams with a bit of the Arena opposite it...

You have to

nope farnborough town had financial problems in the end ,it nearly went to poolie and thats fact oooooh how good that would have been

isn't this the stand that nearly crippled us the first time before gorgeous George came along? Now it could be part of a new future how ironic.

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Definitly worth 1883 looking into to get the club back to the town, pretty sure the site advertising the ground some months ago had it as free, MSD simply want shot of it, that stand alone would go along way to having a ground capable of being in the blue square

Let's be honest, that stand aside Feethams was pretty basic. I don't know how much it would cost to put up, but if it's affordable, then surely we'd only need some terracing for the other 3 sides. And some land!

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This could be a cracking start to our new stadium, erection costs only could be the winner for us as I'd of thought buying that sort of stand wouldn't be cheap! Does anybody remember how much it cost us as I was like 13 back then! Ahhh the good old days...........

A million quid was quoted at one point, although more informed others will clear this up I hope.

Bloody hell, very good bit of business if we could get that at erection cost only!!! That's defo got to be looked at for a new future away from the Arena!!
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Back when the stand was built, costs were approximately £300.00 per seat. Nowadays that is in excess of £1000.00 per seat for a bespoke build.

As in other threads, off the shelf steel stands are the way to go for the time being. These are a fraction of the price, and don't need any more foundations than a flat base. Hence the comparitive cheapness against concrete.

Some of the better ones are Fulham, the RDS in Dublin, and in rugby Worcester and Quins. Rather basic ones can be found at Crawley, Bristol Rovers and Blackpool. The good thing about the ones build by Worcester are that they were initially temporary and can be made permanent as funds become available. They can also be altered (eg boxes) or extended as all they are in essence is a giant meccano set.

3million east stand
get msd to rebuild it, do they bit for the club free of charge they will no how to erect it they the ones who taken it down,its some were up albert hill last i heard i agree this could be a starting point if its available


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I heard that the East Stand made money. Was it the brilliant 'honest George' who made that claim

The stand held 3,500 so would cost around £3.5m to rebuild from scratch at today's cost.

I looked at re-build costs sometime ago and, surprisingly, the rebuild cost would be around the £2m mark, possibly a bit cheaper, depending on the piling requirements for the foundations.

What MSD has is basically the steel frame, terracing and, I'm assuming, the cladding. In addition to the construction costs, there would be cost of wiring, plumbing, seating and fitting out the interior. It all adds up.

I'm sure £2m would be best spent on buying the Arena from S&S.

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The only way we'll ever get hold of that sort of money is if S&S are able to sell the arena to another proprietor because council cut covenant down to say 50% and and allow something else to be built/operated from the site.

Even then that would require a sale price of £4million on the land which is probably a bit steep!

i think getting some land and getting the old east stand is the way forward carnt see MSD wanting a fortune for it

Spot on Charlie_Darlo. It amazes me how some peoples minds work.

I would think that all that is left of the old stand that can be salvaged is the cantilever roof. The terracing was reinforced concrete and any internal steel framing will have been encased in concrete to meet fire regualtions. All this will be at landfill. Even the cladding will be useless once stipped out.

So to drop the roof in place all we need is a massive reinforced concrete superstructure called a stand to put it on, which conincidently is three quarters of the cost of a new stand. ie over £2 Million. More than it would cost to buy the Arena!

So we could buy a top of the range executive saloon or the bonnet for an old mini for the same money.

Which would you choose?

It wasn't the stand that financially crippled us it was the chairman of the club (Mike Peden). I could say more but I don't want to get Scott into trouble as I was a shareholder at the time. A certain amount of the money it cost was provided in the form of a grant though I cannot remember the source. If I remember correctly Peden suggested building a wall at Feethams and sold the bricks for a sum of money to dedicated supporters. One of our fans was down at the ground one day and found a load of bricks paid for by fans that had been discarded - typical Peden! We ended up in the embarrassing situation of being towards the top of the league and on the Friday before playing fellow promotion contenders Brentford at Griffin Park the players found out they weren't getting paid - we duly lost 3-0 and suffered the consequences later.

this all depends o the condition of it of course.....nine years of being exposed to the elements could cost a fair whack to repair....i don't want to sound negative, it's a cracking idea getting the east stand back, but we do have to think of things like this

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Tyne Tees Demolition of Newton Aycliffe have been involved at the football club for many years - they leased one of the hospitality suites at The Arena. I'm sure if the club got them involved they would be happy to help in return for some form of sponsorship? I could be wrong but if you don't ask them you will never find out.

People in here are delusional, as has been pointed out the rebuild costs of that stand are prohibitive and the cost could buy the arena. This is not a tent that we are talking about it is a massive stand, we would need land to put it on (not cheap) we would need a company to build the structure (not cheap), we would need to fit it out and we would need to purchase it, the scrap value of the steel must be close to a 6 figure sum alone.

I don't have the answers, but I know this isn't it and on a slightly different point People keep talking about building a community stadium with council support, won't happen in a million years. There's a 25000 all seater fucking stadium, with boxes, space for classrooms and everything that would be a fantastic community facility going for a fraction of the cost that it would take to build it or the old east stand. If the council wanted a community venue and facility that other boroughs and areas would kill for it would have bought the arena.

I'm gutted as to what's happened to darlo. It was a travesty to build the arena, a travesty to leave it and it will be a travesty when it's demolished or burnt down / left to rot,whatever comes first.

All of the above is nonsense, when on earth are we going to have £2-£3m!
If we had we would have bought the stadium and had done some sort of deal with Raj. Hate to say it but I think we will be out of darlo for years unless a rich benefactor comes along as we will never have that type of money.

Did we ever get confirmation or further details from a confirmed source about reconstruction of this stand? If the figures quoted here are real then its a non starter but from a non informed point of view i'd hope this would be an option explored!

It'd be too big and expensive to reconstruct, it was a 3,500 seater stand!

We need to be looking to build a 500 seater stand initially, to comply with minimum regulations. The rest can come later.

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Blackwell Meadows could have this stand constructed as their is loads of space. Shared costs possibly?

Im not going to keep banging on about this by the way, just think it could be a win win situation for MSD cranes and ourselves in the medium term...

As has been clearly pointed out, the only saving would be some of the materials - the steel frame, the concrete terracing (if still usable) and the cladding (if still usable).

The cost would be in the construction costs, including piling and steel erection and the fitting out. Everything inside was trashed.

The rebuild cost is around £2m (2009 cost) which, whilst a saving on building from scratch is still prohibitive.

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