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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by monkey » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:02 pm

botrash wrote:
Hilly wrote:
Enigma wrote:Who are these people and have they really got a clue? Seriously this isnt simply a typo or carelessness its lack of knowledge and were expected to put our faith and money in them

Or are we paying an agency to do this stuff if so time to find a new one surely

Maybe thats how we ended up at Shildon someone thought theyd heard it was a city ground when the comment was its a shitty ground
Seriously, how is this bloke still here? Idiot.

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by monkey » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:15 pm

Hilly wrote:
monkey wrote:
botrash wrote:
Hilly wrote:
Enigma wrote:Who are these people and have they really got a clue? Seriously this isnt simply a typo or carelessness its lack of knowledge and were expected to put our faith and money in them

Or are we paying an agency to do this stuff if so time to find a new one surely

Maybe thats how we ended up at Shildon someone thought theyd heard it was a city ground when the comment was its a shitty ground
Seriously, how is this bloke still here? Idiot.

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Have you really just banned somebody for having a different opinion to you?
No. He was banned for a mischievous little oik.
No, he was banned for daring to have an opinion. Do the mods only allow posts that they agree with? Next stop Poland eh?

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by Hilly » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:32 pm

monkey wrote:No, he was banned for daring to have an opinion. Do the mods only allow posts that they agree with? Next stop Poland eh?
Let's cut to the chase, you're Enigma and you've come back to have another bite of the cherry.

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Post by botrash » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:36 pm

monkey wrote:Have you really just banned somebody for having a different opinion to you?

No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board. Not really sure what I have possibly said there that suggests it's anything to do with his opinions, but don't let that stop you making up any old interpretation to suit your pointless argument...

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by monkey » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:41 pm

Hilly wrote:
monkey wrote:No, he was banned for daring to have an opinion. Do the mods only allow posts that they agree with? Next stop Poland eh?
Let's cut to the chase, you're Enigma and you've come back to have another bite of the cherry.
I can promise you I'm not. I just think that a message board should be a mixture of people with differing views. Do you?
There's many reasons to ban people but not agreeing with their posts is not one of them.

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by monkey » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:50 pm

botrash wrote:
monkey wrote:Have you really just banned somebody for having a different opinion to you?

No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board. Not really sure what I have possibly said there that suggests it's anything to do with his opinions, but don't let that stop you making up any old interpretation to suit your pointless argument...
Add no value to the board?! So you get to decide who adds value and who doesn't eh? Take your nazi jackboots off and think about this for a second. If you ban people who you think don't 'add value' who are you left with? Just a select group who all agree with each other. That'll be interesting! Why don't you ban me as well if you think my argument is pointless?

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by Hilly » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:50 pm

monkey wrote:
Hilly wrote:
monkey wrote:No, he was banned for daring to have an opinion. Do the mods only allow posts that they agree with? Next stop Poland eh?
Let's cut to the chase, you're Enigma and you've come back to have another bite of the cherry.
I can promise you I'm not. I just think that a message board should be a mixture of people with differing views. Do you?
There's many reasons to ban people but not agreeing with their posts is not one of them.
Of course I do - but it becomes quite clear that the poster has ulterior motives (as you can tell in every post that he / she made) that's when enough is enough.

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by monkey » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:54 pm

Hilly wrote:
monkey wrote:
Hilly wrote:
monkey wrote:No, he was banned for daring to have an opinion. Do the mods only allow posts that they agree with? Next stop Poland eh?
Let's cut to the chase, you're Enigma and you've come back to have another bite of the cherry.
I can promise you I'm not. I just think that a message board should be a mixture of people with differing views. Do you?
There's many reasons to ban people but not agreeing with their posts is not one of them.
Of course I do - but it becomes quite clear that the poster has ulterior motives (as you can tell in every post that he / she made) that's when enough is enough.
If that's the case then take on their arguments and beat them! I go on the RTG Sunderland message board and they would never ban somebody for this on there even though loads of Newcastle fans go on there. Too much censorship ruins a board.

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by quakersam » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:27 pm

So do too many fuckwits
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Post by charlie » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:36 pm

monkey wrote:
Hilly wrote:
monkey wrote:
Hilly wrote:
monkey wrote:No, he was banned for daring to have an opinion. Do the mods only allow posts that they agree with? Next stop Poland eh?
Let's cut to the chase, you're Enigma and you've come back to have another bite of the cherry.
I can promise you I'm not. I just think that a message board should be a mixture of people with differing views. Do you?
There's many reasons to ban people but not agreeing with their posts is not one of them.
Of course I do - but it becomes quite clear that the poster has ulterior motives (as you can tell in every post that he / she made) that's when enough is enough.
If that's the case then take on their arguments and beat them! I go on the RTG Sunderland message board and they would never ban somebody for this on there even though loads of Newcastle fans go on there. Too much censorship ruins a board.
Its not about censorship, folk need to realise that this message board is owned and paid for by individuals, not some big rich corporation. When solicitors letters start dropping on the doormat then action needs to be taken.
Also folk are not banned because of disagreeing with an individuals posts, each case is looked at and the effect it has on the message board, eg delib inciting arguments. If you dont like the way the message board is operated then please close the door on your way out

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by botrash » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:55 pm

monkey wrote:
botrash wrote:
monkey wrote:Have you really just banned somebody for having a different opinion to you?

No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board. Not really sure what I have possibly said there that suggests it's anything to do with his opinions, but don't let that stop you making up any old interpretation to suit your pointless argument...
Add no value to the board?! So you get to decide who adds value and who doesn't eh? Take your nazi jackboots off and think about this for a second. If you ban people who you think don't 'add value' who are you left with? Just a select group who all agree with each other. That'll be interesting! Why don't you ban me as well if you think my argument is pointless?
So you think "add value" means "agree with me"? Again, you're just making up "facts" to argue a point that doesn't exist.

I was going to write a long message justifying myself to you then I realised - I don't really care in the slightest what you think :wave:

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by monkey » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:10 pm

I can promise you I'm not. I just think that a message board should be a mixture of people with differing views. Do you?
There's many reasons to ban people but not agreeing with their posts is not one of them.[/quote]
Of course I do - but it becomes quite clear that the poster has ulterior motives (as you can tell in every post that he / she made) that's when enough is enough.[/quote]

If that's the case then take on their arguments and beat them! I go on the RTG Sunderland message board and they would never ban somebody for this on there even though loads of Newcastle fans go on there. Too much censorship ruins a board.[/quote]

Its not about censorship, folk need to realise that this message board is owned and paid for by individuals, not some big rich corporation. When solicitors letters start dropping on the doormat then action needs to be taken.
Also folk are not banned because of disagreeing with an individuals posts, each case is looked at and the effect it has on the message board, eg delib inciting arguments. If you dont like the way the message board is operated then please close the door on your way out[/quote]

What are you talking about? Where did I say that its ok for people to make accusations or defamatory statements that lead to solicitors letters? Of course people should be banned for that. What I'm saying is that it's not right to ban somebody for posting their opinion even if it does incite an argument. For gods sake there's enough people on here who are quite happy to have an argument anyway! That's the beauty of a message board. By the way, jus who do you think you are telling me to leave the board? If you don't like what I'm saying why don't you leave?

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by monkey » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:15 pm

botrash wrote:
monkey wrote:
botrash wrote:
monkey wrote:Have you really just banned somebody for having a different opinion to you?

No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board. Not really sure what I have possibly said there that suggests it's anything to do with his opinions, but don't let that stop you making up any old interpretation to suit your pointless argument...
Add no value to the board?! So you get to decide who adds value and who doesn't eh? Take your nazi jackboots off and think about this for a second. If you ban people who you think don't 'add value' who are you left with? Just a select group who all agree with each other. That'll be interesting! Why don't you ban me as well if you think my argument is pointless?
So you think "add value" means "agree with me"? Again, you're just making up "facts" to argue a point that doesn't exist.

I was going to write a long message justifying myself to you then I realised - I don't really care in the slightest what you think :wave:
Still replied though so you must care a little bit!

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Post by charlie » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:20 pm

Depends on the type of argument and how heated that becomes, we have many arguments on here that folk dont get banned for your missing the point entirely and I didnt tell you to leave I suggested if you didnt like the way the message board was run that you shut the door on your way out, and please dont take that tone or attitude with me

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by mikkyx » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:21 pm

Why you didn't bother posting anything about this until almost a month after Enigma was actually banned is beyond me (and in a sticky, at the top of the board, about saving the club, which I'm now going to have to tidy up when I haul myself back out of bed in the morning), but the simple fact is he was banned because he was continually posting statements designed to incite arguments, rather than statements of opinion or attempts to provoke discussion.

Had he simply been here providing an opinion he could quite happily have remained. He didn't. So he couldn't.
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Post by charlie » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:23 pm

Was just looking at how to tidy it up Mikkyx

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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by mikkyx » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:27 pm

charlie wrote:Was just looking at how to tidy it up Mikkyx
Suggest you create a new topic, merge the posts out of here into it. Can't remember offhand how to do it myself. Don't mind doing it myself tomorrow (er, today - I've just seen the time!) if you'd rather.
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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by charlie » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:29 pm

I`ll have a look, not going to bed yet, get yerself off x

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Post by charlie » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:32 pm

Right, try and keep discussions of this nature off sticky posts please

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Post by Quakerz » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:35 pm

charlie wrote:not going to bed yet, get yerself off x
That's what his wife just said as well.
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Post by number_one » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:13 am

botrash wrote: No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board.
How come Pete is still able to post then?

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Post by monkey » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:18 am

charlie wrote:Depends on the type of argument and how heated that becomes, we have many arguments on here that folk dont get banned for your missing the point entirely and I didnt tell you to leave I suggested if you didnt like the way the message board was run that you shut the door on your way out, and please dont take that tone or attitude with me
If you look back you'll see you started with the tone!

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Post by monkey » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:23 am

number_one wrote:
botrash wrote: No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board.
How come Pete is still able to post then?
This is the whole crux of my argument. Who's to say that Pete (sorry, just using him as an example) provides more to this board than enigma or anybody else that's been banned?

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Post by wellindarlo » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:28 am

That would be the moderators
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Post by number_one » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:29 am

monkey wrote:
number_one wrote:
botrash wrote: No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board.
How come Pete is still able to post then?
This is the whole crux of my argument. Who's to say that Pete (sorry, just using him as an example) provides more to this board than enigma or anybody else that's been banned?
Using Pete as an example in this argument has worked for you, so fair point well made.

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Post by grytters » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:08 am

botrash wrote:
monkey wrote:Have you really just banned somebody for having a different opinion to you?
No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board.

No you don't. If that were the case there'd be nobody left.
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Post by Quakerz » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:14 am

monkey wrote:
number_one wrote:
botrash wrote: No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board.
How come Pete is still able to post then?
This is the whole crux of my argument. Who's to say that Pete (sorry, just using him as an example) provides more to this board than enigma or anybody else that's been banned?
Here's how it is, it's a privately owned board, the moderators give up their time for free, they don't have to put themselves in the firing line, but they do. Now as moderators, they have to make the rules and uphold them. There is no higher body to give them a guideline, it is up to them, they are the law.

You clearly don't like the way they do things, well if that's the case become a moderator and advise within.
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Re: www.savedarlo.org and www.1883cic.org

Post by monkey » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:46 am

Quakerz wrote:
monkey wrote:
number_one wrote:
botrash wrote: No, I just ban people who spout repetitive crap and add no value to the board.
How come Pete is still able to post then?
This is the whole crux of my argument. Who's to say that Pete (sorry, just using him as an example) provides more to this board than enigma or anybody else that's been banned?
Here's how it is, it's a privately owned board, the moderators give up their time for free, they don't have to put themselves in the firing line, but they do. Now as moderators, they have to make the rules and uphold them. There is no higher body to give them a guideline, it is up to them, they are the law.

You clearly don't like the way they do things, well if that's the case become a moderator and advise within.
Look, I understand that the mods have taken the time to look after the board and I appreciate that. However, I don't see the problem with people pointing out when they dont think they are acting fairly. Why do I need to be a moderator to do that?

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Post by al_quaker » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:51 am

Enigma was blatantly a WUM so I don't really see what the problem is.

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Post by Quakerz » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:52 am

Exactly. Every single person on this board could see it, and it's fair to say he irritated and offended many.
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