40 years ago today . . .
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 4:22 pm
. . . Margaret Thatcher became Prime Minister.
How the country needs her back right now.
How the country needs her back right now.
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Mrs. Thatcher hated football and its fans. Compulsory Identity Cards for football fans (including Division 4) were legislated for and ready to go when Lord Peter Taylor of Gosforth published the Taylor Report after Hillsborough demonstrating what a ridiculous idea it was and she had to back down. Had it gone ahead it would have stopped any casual fan turning up at Feethams without having previously applied for and paid for membership in advance. It would have knocked 100s off the gates.
Correctpolam wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:46 pmMrs. Thatcher hated football and its fans. Compulsory Identity Cards for football fans (including Division 4) were legislated for and ready to go when Lord Peter Taylor of Gosforth published the Taylor Report after Hillsborough demonstrating what a ridiculous idea it was and she had to back down. Had it gone ahead it would have stopped any casual fan turning up at Feethams without having previously applied for and paid for membership in advance. It would have knocked 100s off the gates.
Mrs T didn’t go far enough.polam wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:46 pmMrs. Thatcher hated football and its fans. Compulsory Identity Cards for football fans (including Division 4) were legislated for and ready to go when Lord Peter Taylor of Gosforth published the Taylor Report after Hillsborough demonstrating what a ridiculous idea it was and she had to back down. Had it gone ahead it would have stopped any casual fan turning up at Feethams without having previously applied for and paid for membership in advance. It would have knocked 100s off the gates.
WOW, what next, Get everyone chipped so they can track every move?Henley wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:57 pmMrs T didn’t go far enough.polam wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:46 pmMrs. Thatcher hated football and its fans. Compulsory Identity Cards for football fans (including Division 4) were legislated for and ready to go when Lord Peter Taylor of Gosforth published the Taylor Report after Hillsborough demonstrating what a ridiculous idea it was and she had to back down. Had it gone ahead it would have stopped any casual fan turning up at Feethams without having previously applied for and paid for membership in advance. It would have knocked 100s off the gates.
We should have ID cards for everyone, not just limited to football supporters.
Would have been beyond the technology of the day.EDJOHNS wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 9:30 amWOW, what next, Get everyone chipped so they can track every move?Henley wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:57 pmMrs T didn’t go far enough.polam wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:46 pmMrs. Thatcher hated football and its fans. Compulsory Identity Cards for football fans (including Division 4) were legislated for and ready to go when Lord Peter Taylor of Gosforth published the Taylor Report after Hillsborough demonstrating what a ridiculous idea it was and she had to back down. Had it gone ahead it would have stopped any casual fan turning up at Feethams without having previously applied for and paid for membership in advance. It would have knocked 100s off the gates.
We should have ID cards for everyone, not just limited to football supporters.
Serious question, WHY should everyone have to have an id card, and what info would you have on it?
I find the whole idea abhorrent and reminds me of WW" times.
grytters wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 4:41 pmWould have been beyond the technology of the day.EDJOHNS wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 9:30 amWOW, what next, Get everyone chipped so they can track every move?Henley wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:57 pmMrs T didn’t go far enough.polam wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:46 pmMrs. Thatcher hated football and its fans. Compulsory Identity Cards for football fans (including Division 4) were legislated for and ready to go when Lord Peter Taylor of Gosforth published the Taylor Report after Hillsborough demonstrating what a ridiculous idea it was and she had to back down. Had it gone ahead it would have stopped any casual fan turning up at Feethams without having previously applied for and paid for membership in advance. It would have knocked 100s off the gates.
We should have ID cards for everyone, not just limited to football supporters.
Serious question, WHY should everyone have to have an id card, and what info would you have on it?
I find the whole idea abhorrent and reminds me of WW" times.
Just tattoo a barcode and number onto everyone's forearm.
If you'd drawn a line in 1980 between the Wash and the Severn Estuary you'd've probably divided the population of the country in two.Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:38 pmNever liked Thatcher as a kid growing up - believing all of the small minded shite about how we're so hard done by up north, which still perpetuates to this day.
But yeah, history has been kind on her now we can look back in hindsight, there's some damn good stories to read.
Today you can cut me in half and I'd bleed blue.
What evidence do we have that she hated the north though? She was born and raised in Grantham, Lincolnshire wasn't she. That put's her in the North according to your map.grytters wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 2:49 pmIf you'd drawn a line in 1980 between the Wash and the Severn Estuary you'd've probably divided the population of the country in two.Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:38 pmNever liked Thatcher as a kid growing up - believing all of the small minded shite about how we're so hard done by up north, which still perpetuates to this day.
But yeah, history has been kind on her now we can look back in hindsight, there's some damn good stories to read.
Today you can cut me in half and I'd bleed blue.
27 million north, and 27 million south.
In the four years between 1979 and 1983 over 100,000 people lost their jobs as a direct result of Margaret Thatcher's Friedmanite economic policies.
North of the line it was over a million.
The woman hated the north, and had declared economic war on the working people of the UK in order to promote the casino culture which has persevered ever since.
Which deadwood would that be? The deadwood for example making steel in Consett, Sheffield and Wales amongst others, or building ships on the Tyne, Wear and Tees (and Clyde).Feethams 1966 wrote:I think if the deadwood had been in the south she would have made the cuts there. If you were around at the time it was obvious that things had to change, we were becoming a banana republic.
Agree it or not, UK got its pride back and we had a real leader in charge.
Parties?OHDFC wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 5:08 pmWhich deadwood would that be? The deadwood for example making steel in Consett, Sheffield and Wales amongst others, or building ships on the Tyne, Wear and Tees (and Clyde).Feethams 1966 wrote:I think if the deadwood had been in the south she would have made the cuts there. If you were around at the time it was obvious that things had to change, we were becoming a banana republic.
Agree it or not, UK got its pride back and we had a real leader in charge.
Whether heavy industry had had its day in the UK can be debated but communities were left rot and people told to 'Get on their bikes' and go to where the jobs were - i.e. the already expensive and over crowded South East.
Thatcher may have been a strong leader but was all about everyone for themselves, survival of the fittest. If you didn't have the skills then you were fucked. She didn't care.
That people held parties when she died should speak volumes about her.
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Consett is certainly a nicer place to pass through these days, used to be rank with dust off the steel works.
Correct, Satan wouldn't let her in.