I think some sporting events may be exempt, but that could change between now & the start of the season.
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It says organised sport is exempt. There is a massive variation in that and there is a split between participation / spectating etc.
Just see what happens. Speaking to Manchester clubs they are really not optimistic that they have long left before they will be forced to cease either hosting spectators or playing.
Leagues have basically said failure to fulfill fixture is a fine regardless of covid tests.
Just see what happens. Speaking to Manchester clubs they are really not optimistic that they have long left before they will be forced to cease either hosting spectators or playing.
Leagues have basically said failure to fulfill fixture is a fine regardless of covid tests.
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Rule was no more than 30 people before so just reduced from that, this is not related to sporting events but to stopping people mixing together with no social distancing I think which is where they believe the latest surge is from. At least that is what I am hoping as I need my fix of Darlo footy.
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Are they still planning on ripping up the grass for a 4G pitch?Quakers83 wrote:Personally, I wouldn’t be against a permanent move to the Arena if this temporary switch went well.
All hypothetical, of course.
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This is correct.50 years wrote:Rule was no more than 30 people before so just reduced from that, this is not related to sporting events but to stopping people mixing together with no social distancing I think which is where they believe the latest surge is from. At least that is what I am hoping as I need my fix of Darlo footy.
At a football ground, there’ll be protocols and measures in place e.g. social distancing, hand sanitisers, one-way systems, officials supposedly enforcing rules, and so on.
Hence why organised sporting events are exempt.
Whether it stays that way, who knows.
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Announcement at 4pm today, which will include details on the trial events
https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 59744?s=20
Don't have a particularly good feeling about it to be honest
https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 59744?s=20
Don't have a particularly good feeling about it to be honest
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Actually won 9 out of 18 played. Did you forget the little cup run we had in 2011?Mister e wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:15 pmNo it wouldn't we've never won a single cup tie at the arena if my memory serves me right.eddie-rowles wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:50 amMy thanks go out to DJ, board members, volunteers who have worked very hard to get this on and thanks to both rugby clubs having sensible discussions and outcomes. Possible season ticket holders used for test games, home draw for FA cup would be great .
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This is where I am tbh, actually looking forward to going back on a temporary basistheoriginalfatcat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:04 pmI don't like The Arena, I never did do - but in a strange way I'm looking forward to this temporary change, because for once I will be able to get a bit of height and see the game from a better viewpoint.
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Anyone know what the condition the pitch is in at the Arena ?
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The only issue I can see is if they lifted up the veil and looked. Of the 15ish games I've seen or been involved in this season.Darlogramps wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:39 amAt a football ground, there’ll be protocols and measures in place e.g. social distancing, hand sanitisers, one-way systems, officials supposedly enforcing rules, and so on.
Hence why organised sporting events are exempt.
Whether it stays that way, who knows.
- no players are following any sort of measures. Changing rooms state they can fit 8-10 in with distancing the full squad plus management are all in there anyway. Speaking with managers and players they basically confirm that they are doing nothing differently except where they used to have signs up about warm up protocols, respect and gambling in the changing rooms which they ignored they now ignore other signs.
- Social distancing isn't being followed in crowds I would say 80% of attendees are occupying 20% of the available space.
- clubs are, where they have enough volunteers, repeating messages but from what I've seen all of them have been met with what is basically abuse from spectators who are asked to stand apart. That is clubs own fans abusing own volunteers for simply asking them to follow guidelines.
- match officials have been told explicitly it is not their role, basically beyond the new red card for coughing at an opponent, to enforce covid restrictions or report them. They can highlight issues to a clubs nominated officer but that is it.
There are two ways it goes. Either restrictions increase which forces hands because it become black and white (ie no fans allowed) or there is at some point acknowledgement that there is individual responsibility on attendees and participants to do the right thing.
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From the games I have attended down in London/ Essex this is the case here.lo36789 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:16 amThe only issue I can see is if they lifted up the veil and looked. Of the 15ish games I've seen or been involved in this season.Darlogramps wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:39 amAt a football ground, there’ll be protocols and measures in place e.g. social distancing, hand sanitisers, one-way systems, officials supposedly enforcing rules, and so on.
Hence why organised sporting events are exempt.
Whether it stays that way, who knows.
- no players are following any sort of measures. Changing rooms state they can fit 8-10 in with distancing the full squad plus management are all in there anyway. Speaking with managers and players they basically confirm that they are doing nothing differently except where they used to have signs up about warm up protocols, respect and gambling in the changing rooms which they ignored they now ignore other signs.
- Social distancing isn't being followed in crowds I would say 80% of attendees are occupying 20% of the available space.
- clubs are, where they have enough volunteers, repeating messages but from what I've seen all of them have been met with what is basically abuse from spectators who are asked to stand apart. That is clubs own fans abusing own volunteers for simply asking them to follow guidelines.
- match officials have been told explicitly it is not their role, basically beyond the new red card for coughing at an opponent, to enforce covid restrictions or report them. They can highlight issues to a clubs nominated officer but that is it.
There are two ways it goes. Either restrictions increase which forces hands because it become black and white (ie no fans allowed) or there is at some point acknowledgement that there is individual responsibility on attendees and participants to do the right thing.
No one seems to take responsibility for their actions, preferring to blame authorities rather than doing their bit to help
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That was trophy apologies I should have been more specific I was referring to the FA Cup.Makka Pakka wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:06 amActually won 9 out of 18 played. Did you forget the little cup run we had in 2011?Mister e wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:15 pmNo it wouldn't we've never won a single cup tie at the arena if my memory serves me right.eddie-rowles wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:50 amMy thanks go out to DJ, board members, volunteers who have worked very hard to get this on and thanks to both rugby clubs having sensible discussions and outcomes. Possible season ticket holders used for test games, home draw for FA cup would be great .
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Not taking responsibility for their actions eh? I can't imagine where people got the impression you could do what you want fromspen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:23 amFrom the games I have attended down in London/ Essex this is the case here.lo36789 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:16 amThe only issue I can see is if they lifted up the veil and looked. Of the 15ish games I've seen or been involved in this season.Darlogramps wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:39 amAt a football ground, there’ll be protocols and measures in place e.g. social distancing, hand sanitisers, one-way systems, officials supposedly enforcing rules, and so on.
Hence why organised sporting events are exempt.
Whether it stays that way, who knows.
- no players are following any sort of measures. Changing rooms state they can fit 8-10 in with distancing the full squad plus management are all in there anyway. Speaking with managers and players they basically confirm that they are doing nothing differently except where they used to have signs up about warm up protocols, respect and gambling in the changing rooms which they ignored they now ignore other signs.
- Social distancing isn't being followed in crowds I would say 80% of attendees are occupying 20% of the available space.
- clubs are, where they have enough volunteers, repeating messages but from what I've seen all of them have been met with what is basically abuse from spectators who are asked to stand apart. That is clubs own fans abusing own volunteers for simply asking them to follow guidelines.
- match officials have been told explicitly it is not their role, basically beyond the new red card for coughing at an opponent, to enforce covid restrictions or report them. They can highlight issues to a clubs nominated officer but that is it.
There are two ways it goes. Either restrictions increase which forces hands because it become black and white (ie no fans allowed) or there is at some point acknowledgement that there is individual responsibility on attendees and participants to do the right thing.
No one seems to take responsibility for their actions, preferring to blame authorities rather than doing their bit to help
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I see the race trial event has been pulled after a day (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/54084761)
It stuns me anyone can think, after over six months of this nonsense, that we can rely on the public to employ 'common sense'. There's far too many selfish, 'i'm alright jack' types in this country who won't do something for anyone else, and those types are enough to perpetuate the spread. It needs proper, clear regulations. Good luck telling a lot of football fans. Some of the above accounts are all too predictable.
It stuns me anyone can think, after over six months of this nonsense, that we can rely on the public to employ 'common sense'. There's far too many selfish, 'i'm alright jack' types in this country who won't do something for anyone else, and those types are enough to perpetuate the spread. It needs proper, clear regulations. Good luck telling a lot of football fans. Some of the above accounts are all too predictable.
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Nothing to do with Boris...It is down to people's stupid selfish behavior especially the 18 - 35 group that think they are both bullet proof & are beyond following instructions.
It is the general public's selfishness that will prevent public events like Football & Racing not the government.
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The absolute worst people for distancing that I have witnessed, bar absolutely none, are roughly 40-60 year old men. They're the worst for not wearing masks as well.Footifanreturns wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:48 pmNothing to do with Boris...It is down to people's stupid selfish behavior especially the 18 - 35 group that think they are both bullet proof & are beyond following instructions.
It is the general public's selfishness that will prevent public events like Football & Racing not the government.
Interesting that you don't extend personal responsibility to the idiot in charge though. You can't demand personal responsibility from individuals in society and expect none from those who lead.
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I know it's entirely popular to blame young folks, but it's not true neither anecdotally nor factually.
Look at the state of this reporting (https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/ ... -under-40/)
'nearly half aged under 40'... errr... so that would be the majority were *over* 40 then. Not to mention the 'under 40s' presumably also includes a bunch of children. Absolutely everyone in the above 40 category, aka the majority problem here, is old enough to know better.
This also leads me to question the wisdom of football matches with all but the strictest controls, given the demographics who will be involved in attending games. I'd place well over 50% of our normal matchday attendance in the 'Male Over 40' category.
Look at the state of this reporting (https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/ ... -under-40/)
'nearly half aged under 40'... errr... so that would be the majority were *over* 40 then. Not to mention the 'under 40s' presumably also includes a bunch of children. Absolutely everyone in the above 40 category, aka the majority problem here, is old enough to know better.
This also leads me to question the wisdom of football matches with all but the strictest controls, given the demographics who will be involved in attending games. I'd place well over 50% of our normal matchday attendance in the 'Male Over 40' category.
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Well you seem to know more than Public Health England or perhaps they should base their figures on what you have witnessed, I know which I would rather believe.H1987 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:03 pmThe absolute worst people for distancing that I have witnessed, bar absolutely none, are roughly 40-60 year old men. They're the worst for not wearing masks as well.Footifanreturns wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:48 pmNothing to do with Boris...It is down to people's stupid selfish behavior especially the 18 - 35 group that think they are both bullet proof & are beyond following instructions.
It is the general public's selfishness that will prevent public events like Football & Racing not the government.
Interesting that you don't extend personal responsibility to the idiot in charge though. You can't demand personal responsibility from individuals in society and expect none from those who lead.
For the period 17 - 30 the Aug
Age 5-9 311 cases
" 10-19. 1818 "
" 20-29. 3995 "
" 30-39. 2580 "
" 40- 49. 1754 "
" 50-59. 1463 "
" 60-69. 800 "
" 70-79. 355 "
" 80 + 405 "
I am basing my figures on facts not a political bias.
By far the biggest groups are the 20 - 39 groups.
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Boris leads a Government that openly admits to flouting international law.Footifanreturns wrote:Nothing to do with Boris...It is down to people's stupid selfish behavior especially the 18 - 35 group that think they are both bullet proof & are beyond following instructions.
It is the general public's selfishness that will prevent public events like Football & Racing not the government.
He also let his own chief adviser and members of the cabinet break lockdown rules, and was too weak to sack them.
When that happens, it’s no surprise others are happy to break laws, particularly when the rules themselves are ridiculous and confusing.
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Please stop the political posts, they have no place on this message board
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If the politics impacts on Darlington FC (in this case it does) then absolutely they have a place on this board.Darlopartisan wrote:Please stop the political posts, they have no place on this message board
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Totally agree. It blurs the facts.Darlopartisan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:31 pmPlease stop the political posts, they have no place on this message board
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No they don’t, it’s your political persuasion that dictates your comments, regardless of what is going on you are blaming the governmentDarlogramps wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:34 pmIf the politics impacts on Darlington FC (in this case it does) then absolutely they have a place on this board.Darlopartisan wrote:Please stop the political posts, they have no place on this message board
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If no fans are going to be allowed back to Elite sporting events in the near future, I hope the deal for playing at the Arena is on a per game basis, not on an annual / quarterly basis Otherwise club could have 2 rental liabilities and no income
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Why would you hope that ?
You are just trying to stir the pot again.
As it happens the agreement has a number of get out clauses.
Run along & worry about your own clubs affairs, no one on here cares about what you hope for.
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Can't see how it won't because we wouldn't be able to commit to X number of games regardless - we have to go back to BM as soon as it's safe we are only at the Arena on safety grounds.
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Why would I hope that?
Maybe because I don't want to see any business get caught out by restrictions imposed as a result of covid_19.
When any club is in trouble, it weakens all football.
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spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:23 pmWhy would I hope that?
Maybe because I don't want to see any business get caught out by restrictions imposed as a result of covid_19.
When any club is in trouble, it weakens all football.
Oh yes of course
You have more faces than the town clock.
You must have a very sad life spending all this time on another clubs Messageboard.
Run along now, nobody cares what you think.
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Its must be sad in your myopic world.Footifanreturns wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:34 pmspen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:23 pmWhy would I hope that?
Maybe because I don't want to see any business get caught out by restrictions imposed as a result of covid_19.
When any club is in trouble, it weakens all football.
Oh yes of course
You have more faces than the town clock.
You must have a very sad life spending all this time on another clubs Messageboard.
Run along now, nobody cares what you think.
Some of us care about football in a wider sense than our own club. Hence why I will be watching football at my 4th venue in 4 days to support local clubs and watch football.
I don't want any football club to struggle financially, hence why back in 2012 I along with nany others donated to save Darlington when the Wolves were at the door.
Banter is one thing, seeing clubs go under is another thing
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So, for clarity, you made an age group up in your head (driven by your own prejudice - there are no 18-35 groups anywhere), and the figures you’ve shared don’t demonstrate your argument as you have no idea what the breakdown is between 30-39, nor the over 18’s in the 10-19 group.. and they’re unlikely to demonstrate a significant correlation, given that those age groups are the most tested. Cool.Footifanreturns wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:18 pmWell you seem to know more than Public Health England or perhaps they should base their figures on what you have witnessed, I know which I would rather believe.H1987 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:03 pmThe absolute worst people for distancing that I have witnessed, bar absolutely none, are roughly 40-60 year old men. They're the worst for not wearing masks as well.Footifanreturns wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:48 pmNothing to do with Boris...It is down to people's stupid selfish behavior especially the 18 - 35 group that think they are both bullet proof & are beyond following instructions.
It is the general public's selfishness that will prevent public events like Football & Racing not the government.
Interesting that you don't extend personal responsibility to the idiot in charge though. You can't demand personal responsibility from individuals in society and expect none from those who lead.
For the period 17 - 30 the Aug
Age 5-9 311 cases
" 10-19. 1818 "
" 20-29. 3995 "
" 30-39. 2580 "
" 40- 49. 1754 "
" 50-59. 1463 "
" 60-69. 800 "
" 70-79. 355 "
" 80 + 405 "
I am basing my figures on facts not a political bias.
By far the biggest groups are the 20 - 39 groups.
It’s brought about by selfish people of all age groups who think the rules don’t apply to them. I wonder where they got that idea from. Maybe it came to them on a day trip to Barnard Castle?