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Darlington Formed 2012

Post by spen666 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:49 am

No, not me trying to wind anyone up, but what @Bostonutdstats claim on twitter. I have repeatedly tried to point out the correct position to him.

Any of you on twitter may want to correct him because the muppet doesn't seem to know the truth

https://twitter.com/bostonutdstats/stat ... 58241?s=20



Be nice to shut his false claims down

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:03 am

Who cares.....

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by lo36789 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:07 am

Yeh couldn't really care less it's a stat from a Boston perspective 🤷🏻‍♀️ can cut it how he likes.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by spen666 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:10 am

So after years of arguing that the club were not formed in 2012, you are now happy for people to state Darlington were formed in 2012?

Strange that you aregued so much against this in the past, now you don't care

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:15 am

He can state what he wants really, a bit like you on your troll twitter account.

No point getting upset with trolls, they just feed off it.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by lo36789 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:21 am

spen666 wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:10 am
So after years of arguing that the club were not formed in 2012, you are now happy for people to state Darlington were formed in 2012?
The club was formed in 1883 but if he wants to track how Boston United have performed against Darlington since 2012 then that's his prerogative.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:37 pm

Spen has a point.

We have had to fight tooth and nail to be recognised as the same club since becoming fan owned, in the face of ignorance, bloody mindedness and trolling.

And now people are saying we don't care if others say we went bust and reformed in 2012? Why did we bother arguing it in the first place then?

I don't know whether the Boston fan just doesn't know the facts or whether he is willfully ignorant - thanks Spen for attempting to put him right on our behalf.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by lo36789 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:46 pm

But all it was was a list of their biggest loss % against other teams.

If he had done it as the full history of DFC we wouldn't have even appeared on the top 5 or bottom 5...

It is just a bit irrelevant. I'd be more inclined to care if it was something like a list of the oldest clubs in England and we weren't included as formed in 1883 or similar as that is about is.

The stats were done from a Boston perspective and the teams that they have been most successful and unsuccessful against. The fact he took a cut for us from 2012 onwards is kinda his choice to do it.

Even more so if it was a deliberate attempt to troll as it basically just gives them what they are after - which is exactly why spen has highlighted it on here.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Darlofan97 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:06 pm

Although the Boston fan is clearly mis-informed on our situation, I am past trying to correct individuals on this subject. Some just won’t be told.

We are legally the same club, we know we are Darlington FC and it certainly feels like a continuation of the many memories we have had watching our team play.

That’s pretty much all there is to it.

I think Spen just wants us all to get our knickers in a twist.

He has failed.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Footifanreturns » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:09 pm

Darlofan97 wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:06 pm
Although the Boston fan is clearly mis-informed on our situation, I am past trying to correct individuals on this subject. Some just won’t be told.

We are legally the same club, we know we are Darlington FC and it certainly feels like a continuation of the many memories we have had watching our team play.

That’s pretty much all there is to it.


I think Spen just wants us all to get our knickers in a twist.

He has failed.

Indeed, just ignore the trolling numpties.
They must have pretty sad lives trolling other teams messageboards.
I actually feel a little sorry for the sad little feckers

We know that we were formed in1883 that is all that counts.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by AndyPark » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:09 pm

Footifanreturns wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:09 pm
Indeed, just ignore the trolling numpties. They must have pretty sad lives trolling other teams messageboards.
I actually feel a little sorry for the sad little feckers
Tell that the Spenny fans who linger on here & pretend they aren’t obsessed :lol:

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by shildonlad » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:55 pm

The re-born club never got the football share, so maybe why some say its a new club established 2012 especially in football terms. If the club did gain the football share then They would have not gone to the northern league.
I may not live in the north east anymore but i still support the north east teams

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by lo36789 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:27 pm

zzz

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by EDJOHNS » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:36 am

shildonlad wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:55 pm
The re-born club never got the football share, so maybe why some say its a new club established 2012 especially in football terms. If the club did gain the football share then They would have not gone to the northern league.
The stupidity of the share issue is that a share is granted to the club, not a person. It belongs solely to the club, not an "owner".
In reality the Know FA could simply have issued a copy of the original share and told RS to wipe his backside with the original.
They did not do so simply because they wanted to make an example of us for the way the club went from problem to problem over a decade

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:27 am

I have always believed the share problem to be a complete red herring.

A few months before we had went into administration, the FA had updated it's rules regarding clubs in administration to basically say that any club which exited administration without agreeing a CVA would be "treated as" a new club and not allowed to enter the pyramid any higher than step 5.

That's what they got us on, they simply read the shiny new rule book to us, called us a new club according to their own new definition, and it was so.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:33 am

shildonlad wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:55 pm
The re-born club never got the football share, so maybe why some say its a new club established 2012 especially in football terms. If the club did gain the football share then They would have not gone to the northern league.
The club was not reborn, not sure whether you just simply can't get that through your thick head or whether you think you're being funny.

The share issue is utterly irrelevant because even had Radged Strings handed it over willingly, the FA would still have got us on the new rule about clubs exiting administration without agreeing a CVA.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by shildonlad » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:40 am

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:33 am
shildonlad wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:55 pm
The re-born club never got the football share, so maybe why some say its a new club established 2012 especially in football terms. If the club did gain the football share then They would have not gone to the northern league.
The club was not reborn, not sure whether you just simply can't get that through your thick head or whether you think you're being funny.

The share issue is utterly irrelevant because even had Radged Strings handed it over willingly, the FA would still have got us on the new rule about clubs exiting administration without agreeing a CVA.
Ok name me another club thats the same club, not a phoenix club that has been demoted 3 divisions since 2012? Cant think of any, if the fa wanted to make an example im sure points deductions could have been applied or a 1 division demotion Which would have placed the club in the northern premier division (evostick) and no im not trolling its facts. The club may has well been liquidated like halifax, chester, hereford, ilkeston et all, would still have started up again in the same division
I may not live in the north east anymore but i still support the north east teams

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:51 am

No, your opinions are not facts.

One thing I DO agree with you, is yes, we may as well have been liquidated like Halifax, Chester, Hereford, for all the good that remaining the same club did us.

The reason that the FA didn't give us a heavy points deduction like they did with Bournemouth, Leeds and Luton - who all, like us, exited administration under new ownership but without having agreed a creditors CVA is because the FA changed the rules after them and before us. The rule became that any club exiting administration with no CVA would be "treated as" a new club.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by lo36789 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:02 am

shildonlad wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:40 am
Ok name me another club thats the same club, not a phoenix club that has been demoted 3 divisions since 2012?
Ok name me a club that is not the same club that has paid the debt of a club which is liquidated.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by lo36789 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:05 am

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:33 am
The share issue is utterly irrelevant because even had Radged Strings handed it over willingly, the FA would still have got us on the new rule about clubs exiting administration without agreeing a CVA.
Fact still remains. There was only ever 1 person with enough voting power to actually vote the CVA through - came with strings though.

If handing over the share was job done might as well have agreed to the CVA the outcome was the same for individual concerned.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Magical Quakers » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:27 pm

All this talk about re-born clubs, football shares and phoenix clubs reminds me of Trigger on Only Fools and Horses.

He says he had the same broom for 20 years. It's had 17 new heads and 14 new handles in its time....

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by eddie-rowles » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:17 am

spen666 wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:49 am
No, not me trying to wind anyone up, but what @Bostonutdstats claim on twitter. I have repeatedly tried to point out the correct position to him.

Any of you on twitter may want to correct him because the muppet doesn't seem to know the truth

https://twitter.com/bostonutdstats/stat ... 58241?s=20



Be nice to shut his false claims down
best concentrate on your own team Evenwood united the pride of Teesdale

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by shildonlad » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:27 am

lo36789 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:02 am
shildonlad wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:40 am
Ok name me another club thats the same club, not a phoenix club that has been demoted 3 divisions since 2012?
Ok name me a club that is not the same club that has paid the debt of a club which is liquidated.
I guess the company that owned the football club was not liquidated, same as bury aint been yet for some bizare reason but its that football share thats meh
I may not live in the north east anymore but i still support the north east teams

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by shildonlad » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:29 am

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:51 am
No, your opinions are not facts.

One thing I DO agree with you, is yes, we may as well have been liquidated like Halifax, Chester, Hereford, for all the good that remaining the same club did us.

The reason that the FA didn't give us a heavy points deduction like they did with Bournemouth, Leeds and Luton - who all, like us, exited administration under new ownership but without having agreed a creditors CVA is because the FA changed the rules after them and before us. The rule became that any club exiting administration with no CVA would be "treated as" a new club.
But surely the above mentioned and middlesbrough all them years ago too must have got the football share transferred to the new owners as well
I may not live in the north east anymore but i still support the north east teams

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Darlofan97 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:42 am

shildonlad wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:27 am
lo36789 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:02 am
shildonlad wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:40 am
Ok name me another club thats the same club, not a phoenix club that has been demoted 3 divisions since 2012?
Ok name me a club that is not the same club that has paid the debt of a club which is liquidated.
I guess the company that owned the football club was not liquidated, same as bury aint been yet for some bizare reason but its that football share thats meh
I would just stop now. You cannot grasp basic company law & your assumptions are incorrect.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Spyman » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:13 pm

The club ultimately is the fans. They are the constant, and although only footifan still remains from 1883, the baton passes from generation to generation.

If we, as supporters, feel the club is the same entity, then it is.

That's disregarding the fact that legally, financially, and in the eyes of the football authorities we are the same club.

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We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.

Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Footifanreturns » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:13 pm

Spyman wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:13 pm
The club ultimately is the fans. They are the constant, and although only footifan still remains from 1883, the baton passes from generation to generation.

If we, as supporters, feel the club is the same entity, then it is.

That's disregarding the fact that legally, financially, and in the eyes of the football authorities we are the same club.

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Yes Spyman but now I am Footifanreturns as I could not get into my old account.
Times were hard in those early days, we used to go to the games by foot, no fancy charabancs then or later horse pulled trolly buses.
Having to walk to Evenwood to see us beat Spendymoor in the Pitchforkers Cup was tough that first season, going through all those cart track rutted roads was quite a hardship.
That was made up by the early success of winning the second ever Durham County Cup in 1884 making us the
" Pride of the County " were great, especially as it was only our 2nd season. The much coveted " The Pride of the County ", a title that was often claimed by other upstarts like Darlington St Augustine's , Evenwood etc.. Competition was fierce in those days, we lost out to that Bishop Auckland Church Institute the following season in the County Cup.
Oh those Derby days against the Darlo Saints were tremendous occasions, post match in the Black Bull in the Marketplace drinking Ale or lashings of Mead in the Drover's Inn at Cockerton on the way back from the Pit Villages were legendary.
It was amazing the speed of the Stop Press scores from other games around the county in The Northern Echo the next morning always had me in awe of the technology in those days.
Those early days against Newcastle West End ( whatever happens to them ? ) & the Ironopolis from Port Darlington were memorable too. In fact we had to wait 25 years until 1908 before we could laugh at the re-election kings from that place near Seaton Carew.

Losing our first FA Cup game to Grimsby 8 - 0 in the 2nd Round was rather disappointing, especially after us & Walsall Swift's got a bye in the first round, even though drawn to play each other in the First Round. Not even a lucky losers draw, who could imagine such a thing happening.
We made the most of the Grimsby day though, making a holiday of it on Cleethorpes golden sands more than made up for it. Especially those new fangled Fish & Chips were great, although there was a guy called Pete from Darlo outside whining about the price of a tuppenny Haddock & a whole Penny for a bag of chips. Some things never change...I don't think he even bought any anyway, some people just like to moan, he even predicted a 8 - 0 win for us as I said some things never change.
Any way Spyman thanks for jogging my memory about Darlington FC... You are correct our name is & always has been that, 1883 was our birth year 137 years young.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by bga » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:28 pm

Footifanreturns wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:13 pm
Spyman wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:13 pm
The club ultimately is the fans. They are the constant, and although only footifan still remains from 1883, the baton passes from generation to generation.

If we, as supporters, feel the club is the same entity, then it is.

That's disregarding the fact that legally, financially, and in the eyes of the football authorities we are the same club.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Yes Spyman but now I am Footifanreturns as I could not get into my old account.
Times were hard in those early days, we used to go to the games by foot, no fancy charabancs then or later horse pulled trolly buses.
Having to walk to Evenwood to see us beat Spendymoor in the Pitchforkers Cup was tough that first season, going through all those cart track rutted roads was quite a hardship.
That was made up by the early success of winning the second ever Durham County Cup in 1884 making us the
" Pride of the County " were great, especially as it was only our 2nd season. The much coveted " The Pride of the County ", a title that was often claimed by other upstarts like Darlington St Augustine's , Evenwood etc.. Competition was fierce in those days, we lost out to that Bishop Auckland Church Institute the following season in the County Cup.
Oh those Derby days against the Darlo Saints were tremendous occasions, post match in the Black Bull in the Marketplace drinking Ale or lashings of Mead in the Drover's Inn at Cockerton on the way back from the Pit Villages were legendary.
It was amazing the speed of the Stop Press scores from other games around the county in The Northern Echo the next morning always had me in awe of the technology in those days.
Those early days against Newcastle West End ( whatever happens to them ? ) & the Ironopolis from Port Darlington were memorable too. In fact we had to wait 25 years until 1908 before we could laugh at the re-election kings from that place near Seaton Carew.

Losing our first FA Cup game to Grimsby 8 - 0 in the 2nd Round was rather disappointing, especially after us & Walsall Swift's got a bye in the first round, even though drawn to play each other in the First Round. Not even a lucky losers draw, who could imagine such a thing happening.
We made the most of the Grimsby day though, making a holiday of it on Cleethorpes golden sands more than made up for it. Especially those new fangled Fish & Chips were great, although there was a guy called Pete from Darlo outside whining about the price of a tuppenny Haddock & a whole Penny for a bag of chips. Some things never change...I don't think he even bought any anyway, some people just like to moan, he even predicted a 8 - 0 win for us as I said some things never change.
Any way Spyman thanks for jogging my memory about Darlington FC... You are correct our name is & always has been that, 1883 was our birth year 137 years young.
Absolute Comedy Gold! (Do St Augustine's still play in green and white quarter shirts like when I played for them?)

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by Footifanreturns » Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:44 pm

bga wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:28 pm
Footifanreturns wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:13 pm
Spyman wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:13 pm
The club ultimately is the fans. They are the constant, and although only footifan still remains from 1883, the baton passes from generation to generation.

If we, as supporters, feel the club is the same entity, then it is.

That's disregarding the fact that legally, financially, and in the eyes of the football authorities we are the same club.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Yes Spyman but now I am Footifanreturns as I could not get into my old account.
Times were hard in those early days, we used to go to the games by foot, no fancy charabancs then or later horse pulled trolly buses.
Having to walk to Evenwood to see us beat Spendymoor in the Pitchforkers Cup was tough that first season, going through all those cart track rutted roads was quite a hardship.
That was made up by the early success of winning the second ever Durham County Cup in 1884 making us the
" Pride of the County " were great, especially as it was only our 2nd season. The much coveted " The Pride of the County ", a title that was often claimed by other upstarts like Darlington St Augustine's , Evenwood etc.. Competition was fierce in those days, we lost out to that Bishop Auckland Church Institute the following season in the County Cup.
Oh those Derby days against the Darlo Saints were tremendous occasions, post match in the Black Bull in the Marketplace drinking Ale or lashings of Mead in the Drover's Inn at Cockerton on the way back from the Pit Villages were legendary.
It was amazing the speed of the Stop Press scores from other games around the county in The Northern Echo the next morning always had me in awe of the technology in those days.
Those early days against Newcastle West End ( whatever happens to them ? ) & the Ironopolis from Port Darlington were memorable too. In fact we had to wait 25 years until 1908 before we could laugh at the re-election kings from that place near Seaton Carew.

Losing our first FA Cup game to Grimsby 8 - 0 in the 2nd Round was rather disappointing, especially after us & Walsall Swift's got a bye in the first round, even though drawn to play each other in the First Round. Not even a lucky losers draw, who could imagine such a thing happening.
We made the most of the Grimsby day though, making a holiday of it on Cleethorpes golden sands more than made up for it. Especially those new fangled Fish & Chips were great, although there was a guy called Pete from Darlo outside whining about the price of a tuppenny Haddock & a whole Penny for a bag of chips. Some things never change...I don't think he even bought any anyway, some people just like to moan, he even predicted a 8 - 0 win for us as I said some things never change.
Any way Spyman thanks for jogging my memory about Darlington FC... You are correct our name is & always has been that, 1883 was our birth year 137 years young.
Absolute Comedy Gold! (Do St Augustine's still play in green and white quarter shirts like when I played for them?)
Aye BGA I think I remember you playing at Chestnut Grove. 😉
But in those days The Saints played in plain green shirts.

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Re: Darlington Formed 2012

Post by bga » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:14 pm

Footifanreturns wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:44 pm
bga wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:28 pm
Footifanreturns wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:13 pm
Spyman wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:13 pm
The club ultimately is the fans. They are the constant, and although only footifan still remains from 1883, the baton passes from generation to generation.

If we, as supporters, feel the club is the same entity, then it is.

That's disregarding the fact that legally, financially, and in the eyes of the football authorities we are the same club.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Yes Spyman but now I am Footifanreturns as I could not get into my old account.
Times were hard in those early days, we used to go to the games by foot, no fancy charabancs then or later horse pulled trolly buses.
Having to walk to Evenwood to see us beat Spendymoor in the Pitchforkers Cup was tough that first season, going through all those cart track rutted roads was quite a hardship.
That was made up by the early success of winning the second ever Durham County Cup in 1884 making us the
" Pride of the County " were great, especially as it was only our 2nd season. The much coveted " The Pride of the County ", a title that was often claimed by other upstarts like Darlington St Augustine's , Evenwood etc.. Competition was fierce in those days, we lost out to that Bishop Auckland Church Institute the following season in the County Cup.
Oh those Derby days against the Darlo Saints were tremendous occasions, post match in the Black Bull in the Marketplace drinking Ale or lashings of Mead in the Drover's Inn at Cockerton on the way back from the Pit Villages were legendary.
It was amazing the speed of the Stop Press scores from other games around the county in The Northern Echo the next morning always had me in awe of the technology in those days.
Those early days against Newcastle West End ( whatever happens to them ? ) & the Ironopolis from Port Darlington were memorable too. In fact we had to wait 25 years until 1908 before we could laugh at the re-election kings from that place near Seaton Carew.

Losing our first FA Cup game to Grimsby 8 - 0 in the 2nd Round was rather disappointing, especially after us & Walsall Swift's got a bye in the first round, even though drawn to play each other in the First Round. Not even a lucky losers draw, who could imagine such a thing happening.
We made the most of the Grimsby day though, making a holiday of it on Cleethorpes golden sands more than made up for it. Especially those new fangled Fish & Chips were great, although there was a guy called Pete from Darlo outside whining about the price of a tuppenny Haddock & a whole Penny for a bag of chips. Some things never change...I don't think he even bought any anyway, some people just like to moan, he even predicted a 8 - 0 win for us as I said some things never change.
Any way Spyman thanks for jogging my memory about Darlington FC... You are correct our name is & always has been that, 1883 was our birth year 137 years young.
Absolute Comedy Gold! (Do St Augustine's still play in green and white quarter shirts like when I played for them?)
Aye BGA I think I remember you playing at Chestnut Grove. 😉
But in those days The Saints played in plain green shirts.
Bit before my time I am afraid. I played for them at "Fortress Polam Lane" changing rooms were interesting to say the least because they had no roof, glass on the floor, and no running water, and stank of urine. Theory was German bombers aiming for Feethams itself in an attempt to demoralise the good Townsfolk of Darlington, bombed the pitch and buildings by mistake.

Kicking up hill (slope worse than Yeovil's old ground away from the old West Stand was always a struggle. Referees were very smart in those days. I recall our teacher Mr Irwin used to referee in his corduroy jacket with shirt and tie, such a gentleman. Happy Days!

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