Darlo Uncovered

super_les_mcjannet wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 3:57 pm

I don't have a lot of interest in new signings currently, once we know any timelines and what's possible I might. At the minute, we don't know our budget, we don't know when football will start, players don't know what to do.

Some players will be happy with signing a contract with us but we don't know what will happen really. We could offer so much but with a clause if we think we can't live up to the offer and they may ask for a clause to not renew on worse terms.

So in reality it's just a wait and see one. We could sign someone and then say we don't start until Jan next year and we have to offer less than we were they then walk away.

quakersfan wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 5:15 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 3:57 pm

I don't have a lot of interest in new signings currently, once we know any timelines and what's possible I might. At the minute, we don't know our budget, we don't know when football will start, players don't know what to do.

Some players will be happy with signing a contract with us but we don't know what will happen really. We could offer so much but with a clause if we think we can't live up to the offer and they may ask for a clause to not renew on worse terms.

So in reality it's just a wait and see one. We could sign someone and then say we don't start until Jan next year and we have to offer less than we were they then walk away.

Have to agree there’s just to much up in the air at the moment to start suggesting signings.

Old Git wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 5:49 pm

quakersfan wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 5:15 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 3:57 pm

I don't have a lot of interest in new signings currently, once we know any timelines and what's possible I might. At the minute, we don't know our budget, we don't know when football will start, players don't know what to do.

Some players will be happy with signing a contract with us but we don't know what will happen really. We could offer so much but with a clause if we think we can't live up to the offer and they may ask for a clause to not renew on worse terms.

So in reality it's just a wait and see one. We could sign someone and then say we don't start until Jan next year and we have to offer less than we were they then walk away.

Have to agree there’s just to much up in the air at the moment to start suggesting signings.

Think it is only meant to be a topic to stimulate a bit of discussion. No need to be killjoys we all know the current situation is serious but a little bit of looking forward to better times ahead does no harm surely.

Beano wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 7:07 pm

The bit about speculation I never quite understand is why we covet knackered ex-Boro/Newcastle/Sunderland players such as Tony McMahon.

lo36789 wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 8:02 pm

Beano wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 7:07 pm

The bit about speculation I never quite understand is why we covet knackered ex-Boro/Newcastle/Sunderland players such as Tony McMahon.

You say knackered others might say experienced. What were Marco Gabbiadini, Gary Bennett, Curtis Fleming, Neil Heaney, Alun Armstrong, Craig Hignett and Martin Gray when we signed them?


Exactly my point LO

From what I saw last season , which was not as much as I’d like as I’m an exile , it seems we lacked leaders and experience

Someone like Tony McMahon would offer both as he has captained a fair few of the teams he’s played for and must still be decent having played in league one last season

I guess it’s all about opinions of course and everyone is entitled to theirs

Lallacab wrote:

lo36789 wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 8:02 pm

Beano wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 7:07 pm

The bit about speculation I never quite understand is why we covet knackered ex-Boro/Newcastle/Sunderland players such as Tony McMahon.

You say knackered others might say experienced. What were Marco Gabbiadini, Gary Bennett, Curtis Fleming, Neil Heaney, Alun Armstrong, Craig Hignett and Martin Gray when we signed them?


Exactly my point LO

From what I saw last season , which was not as much as I’d like as I’m an exile , it seems we lacked leaders and experience

Someone like Tony McMahon would offer both as he has captained a fair few of the teams he’s played for and must still be decent having played in league one last season

I guess it’s all about opinions of course and everyone is entitled to theirs

We have been down the ex league player /higher level players before and it doesn't work, I'd rather have younger promising players who are hungry or talented players like Will Hatfield who could actually play higher NOT players dropping down just to play part time and get some beer money

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lo36789 wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 8:02 pm

Beano wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 7:07 pm

The bit about speculation I never quite understand is why we covet knackered ex-Boro/Newcastle/Sunderland players such as Tony McMahon.

You say knackered others might say experienced. What were Marco Gabbiadini, Gary Bennett, Curtis Fleming, Neil Heaney, Alun Armstrong, Craig Hignett and Martin Gray when we signed them?

I guess the theory is identifying someone who may have connections / family in the north east still so could be interested in a return home and at a decent price.

Feels like a bit of harmless speculation tbh over any serious identification and commitment to signing players.

I still think if we can get a GK on loan that is a win win for all, not sure I really see what is lost on having someone in permanently. I do keep wondering if Paul Woolston could be available from Manchester United - they have 4 first team goalkeepers and 6 u23s goalkeepers according to their website!

It wouldn't be a bad relationship to create if we can demonstrate to them that we can offer good first team football experience...if we could just get Hannibal Mejbri in next that would be perfect

Darlo_Pete wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 5:56 pm

I know that a couple of years ago, we had a youth keeper that made the bench a few times & was quite highly thought of. Does anybody know if the lad is still with the club & could he step up to be our regular shot stopper? Personally I'd prefer us to have a permanent keeper, rather than rely on a loan keeper.

Darlofan97 wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 10:25 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 5:56 pm

I know that a couple of years ago, we had a youth keeper that made the bench a few times & was quite highly thought of. Does anybody know if the lad is still with the club & could he step up to be our regular shot stopper? Personally I'd prefer us to have a permanent keeper, rather than rely on a loan keeper.

You could argue that any one of the last 4 loan keepers we have had (Pears, Turner, Talbot, Hemming) are all better than any permanent goalkeeper we have had recently (Connell, Elliott, Maddison, Wilczynski).

We haven’t had a very good permanent goalkeeper since Adam Bartlett, and it was only because of quite fortunate circumstances we had him here.

Whenever football does resume, I’d be looking to loan one in again. That would save a wage, and we also won’t be carrying 2 keepers on the books again next season meaning that wage can be invested elsewhere too.

divas wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 7:58 am

I’d expect Jack Lambert to be here next season

Old Git wrote:

divas wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 7:58 am

I’d expect Jack Lambert to be here next season

Agreed look likely as it does not seem to have worked out for him at Scunthorpe and he could well be released. AA seems to like him and I believe he is an ex Boro trainee so presumably would be happy to come.
We are well stocked with midfielders so would think it probable someone may have to go to accommodate him possibly Omar.

JE93 wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 7:18 am

Darlofan97 wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 10:25 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 5:56 pm

I know that a couple of years ago, we had a youth keeper that made the bench a few times & was quite highly thought of. Does anybody know if the lad is still with the club & could he step up to be our regular shot stopper? Personally I'd prefer us to have a permanent keeper, rather than rely on a loan keeper.

You could argue that any one of the last 4 loan keepers we have had (Pears, Turner, Talbot, Hemming) are all better than any permanent goalkeeper we have had recently (Connell, Elliott, Maddison, Wilczynski).

We haven’t had a very good permanent goalkeeper since Adam Bartlett, and it was only because of quite fortunate circumstances we had him here.

Whenever football does resume, I’d be looking to loan one in again. That would save a wage, and we also won’t be carrying 2 keepers on the books again next season meaning that wage can be invested elsewhere too.

That's pretty bang on with my view too re Goalkeepers at this level. Wouldn't mind seeing Hemming come back here on loan from Boro if possible. Or Jake Turner who we had on loan from Bolton but who is now with Newcastle I think.

I would like a big 6'3+ head it and kick it defender, but I dont think it makes financial sense to add a 4th CB especially when Reid can fill in in emergencies, so could see that being a one in one out situation, but then who would be let go?

Another CF is the other obvious one. Would love to see O'Neill back feels likes there is unfinished business there and you could see the relationship that was developing with Campbell, both such intelligent footballers.

Hard to pick out actual targets until the released lists in from clubs in the couple of leagues above is known as that's where we'll likely be shopping.

If most of the current squad resign (I dont think Trotman will be signing back up, there were rumours about Holness but nothing concrete yet) we currently have:

Gk: Hall
Def: Hedley, Galbraith, Storey, Laing, Liddle, Watson
Mid: Hatfield, Wheatley, Atkinson, Holness, Reid,
Wide players: Thompson, Rivers, Donawa, Holmes
Forwards: Campbell,

JE93 wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 7:18 am

If most of the current squad resign (I dont think Trotman will be signing back up, there were rumours about Holness but nothing concrete yet) we currently have:

LoidLucan wrote:I think Adam Boyes is now free to end his two-year bench-warming stint at Spendy. He's got goals in him with regular football providing those betting offences are all done and dusted.

QUAKERMAN2 wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 9:47 am

LoidLucan wrote:I think Adam Boyes is now free to end his two-year bench-warming stint at Spendy. He's got goals in him with regular football providing those betting offences are all done and dusted.

If he will take a cut in wages, and god only knows what they are paying him, this could be a good shout Lucan.His style of play could be more suited to how we play and AA has said he does not want a big lump of a CF who is purely a target man.

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HarrytheQuaker wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 9:03 pm

We have been down the ex league player /higher level players before and it doesn't work, I'd rather have younger promising players who are hungry or talented players like Will Hatfield who could actually play higher NOT players dropping down just to play part time and get some beer money

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LoidLucan wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 8:29 am

I think Adam Boyes is now free to end his two-year bench-warming stint at Spendy. He's got goals in him with regular football providing those betting offences are all done and dusted.

loan_star wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 12:12 pm

HarrytheQuaker wrote: ↑

Wed May 13, 2020 9:03 pm

We have been down the ex league player /higher level players before and it doesn't work, I'd rather have younger promising players who are hungry or talented players like Will Hatfield who could actually play higher NOT players dropping down just to play part time and get some beer money

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But Will Hatfield used to play at a higher level

LoidLucan wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 8:29 am

I think Adam Boyes is now free to end his two-year bench-warming stint at Spendy. He's got goals in him with regular football providing those betting offences are all done and dusted.

I think all FA disciplinaries are on hold for now, they havent even chased the £30 I owe them haha! This may well still come back and put an end to a few players immediate careers. Any ban will be held over till football is back so it could be a long break for him.

JE93 wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 7:18 am

I would like a big 6'3+ head it and kick it defender, but I dont think it makes financial sense to add a 4th CB especially when Reid can fill in in emergencies, so could see that being a one in one out situation, but then who would be let go?

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:

JE93 wrote: ↑

Thu May 14, 2020 7:18 am

I would like a big 6'3+ head it and kick it defender, but I dont think it makes financial sense to add a 4th CB especially when Reid can fill in in emergencies, so could see that being a one in one out situation, but then who would be let go?

Either Galbraith or Laing. Neither are going to get any better at this stage. Whereas Storey still has room for improvement. I see Storey + new signing as the CB pairing next season, with one of Galbraith or Laing as cover. I'd probably favour keeping Tez because he can play left back as well, plus his long history at the club.

But to say a big 6'3+ head it and kick it defender doesn't make financial sense is bizarre, it's a number one priority. Remember Farsley at home? Somehow lost 2-4 in a match we completely dominated? That's why an ugly brick s*** house is a necessity - and a keeper. We'll go nowhere leaking goals like that every week. And of course a goalscorer. How many chances did we waste not just v Farsley but throughout the season?

Before anyone mentions Campbell and his 16 goals, remember that he should have scored about 160. Score one, miss 10. I've never seen a Darlo team create so many chances yet score so few. Don't get me wrong, he's a nifty intelligent player who I'd like to see in the team next season, but we definitely need a forward alongside who can take more chances.

Imagine the Farsley match with a competent keeper, a no nonsense central defender marshalling the back line, and a goalscorer? We'd have literally won 6-0.

I STILL haven't got over that match! Never even been able to bring myself to watch the highlights yet or listen to the after match interviews.