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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by HarryCharltonsCat » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:29 pm

jjljks wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:10 am
Rugby club must be very worried about their revenue stream & in a way Covid19 could do us a favour if they went into administration.
And we wonder why they don't like us very much.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by murtonquakerfan » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:53 pm

jjljks wrote:Rugby club must be very worried about their revenue stream & in a way Covid19 could do us a favour if they went into administration.
And how would that benefit us???

Not something I would wish on them to be honest

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by jjljks » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:09 pm

If the administrators get called in, they look for parties interested in buying the assets of the ailing company. Could be a bargain, where else is there a pitch & facilities up to NL standards in Darlington?

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:40 pm

jjljks wrote:If the administrators get called in, they look for parties interested in buying the assets of the ailing company. Could be a bargain, where else is there a pitch & facilities up to NL standards in Darlington?
Give your head a shake... I hate the place but wouldn't wish that on them...
Do you think Mowden pk thought I hope darlo go bust so we can steam in and get a stadium for a peppercorn rent?? You do talk some shite

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by HarryCharltonsCat » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:49 pm

A fan of our club, with our history, hoping for another club to fail so we can benefit, frankly is a little contemptible.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by quaker4life » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:27 pm

jjljks wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:10 am
Rugby club must be very worried about their revenue stream & in a way Covid19 could do us a favour if they went into administration.
I'm sure there'd be a few property developers rubbing their hands together at that prospect.
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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:52 pm

HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:40 pm
jjljks wrote:If the administrators get called in, they look for parties interested in buying the assets of the ailing company. Could be a bargain, where else is there a pitch & facilities up to NL standards in Darlington?
Give your head a shake... I hate the place but wouldn't wish that on them...
Do you think Mowden pk thought I hope darlo go bust so we can steam in and get a stadium for a peppercorn rent?? You do talk some shite

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jjljks - as Harry says above "give your head a shake" :thumbdown:
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by Dilly-dilly » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:03 pm

Every Cloud has a silver lining !
For Darlington may well be Jamie Holmes and Luke Trotman . Given may well be around 6 Weeks before Club kicks a ball again . Both players maybe fit to return.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by quakerste » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:14 pm

Don't think we will kick a ball again this season. Just hoping things will be okay to start again in August.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by quaker4life » Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:40 pm

quakerste wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:14 pm
Don't think we will kick a ball again this season. Just hoping things will be okay to start again in August.
I don't think we should get ahead of ourselves just yet.
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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:48 pm

quakerste wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:14 pm
Don't think we will kick a ball again this season. Just hoping things will be okay to start again in August.
It might be August, but that could well be a starting point to finishing this season.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by Dilly-dilly » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:20 pm

Euro 2020 Cancelled to allow Leagues to finish.
Guess that's going to be conclusion given the TV deals that are built in . Subject to Clubs etc surviving shut down .

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by lo36789 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:45 pm

Yep but read somewhere that UEFA have said they expect domestic leagues to finish by 30th June because of the tie in with contracts.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... -statement

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by biccynana » Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:02 pm

jjljks wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:41 pm
There will be serious consequences for many clubs, some of which may end in administration or even extinction. Various spaces could appear in any league which then impact promotion /relegation. Pyramids need solid foundations & could collapse.....
Barnet have laid off all 60 non-playing staff https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... nal-league

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by jjljks » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:38 am

Bobby Barnes of PFA said on Radio 4 that 65% of football clubs are facing bankruptcy because of Covid19 disruption to revenue.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by JasonDeVos » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:54 am

biccynana wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:02 pm
jjljks wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:41 pm
There will be serious consequences for many clubs, some of which may end in administration or even extinction. Various spaces could appear in any league which then impact promotion /relegation. Pyramids need solid foundations & could collapse.....
Barnet have laid off all 60 non-playing staff https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... nal-league

That’s a benefit of our smaller operation. I imagine some will have far more than 60 in the lower leagues.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by Darlo_Pete » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:50 am

jjljks wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:38 am
Bobby Barnes of PFA said on Radio 4 that 65% of football clubs are facing bankruptcy because of Covid19 disruption to revenue.
That's really concerning for football, but it does go to show that if we can survive this catastrophe, we could be in a very different environment & structure of football than we are now. I hope that the 65% quoted is a very pessimistic figure & the reality will be far fewer clubs will go out of business.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by Old Git » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:30 am

Sorry for the people at Barnet who face an uncertain future but I cannot help wondering how a small club like them could afford so many non football staff. They are only one league above us. Things will never be the same again for many teams and I am convinced that teams without a sugar daddy will have to adopt a model similar to our own to survive. Just hope we can come through this and with our dedicated team of volunteers and fans I think we can.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by spen666 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:42 am

Old Git wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:30 am
Sorry for the people at Barnet who face an uncertain future but I cannot help wondering how a small club like them could afford so many non football staff. They are only one league above us. Things will never be the same again for many teams and I am convinced that teams without a sugar daddy will have to adopt a model similar to our own to survive. Just hope we can come through this and with our dedicated team of volunteers and fans I think we can.
60 staff is an easy figure to reach, especially for a club that has been in football league very recently.

It includes all staff, full/ part time other than players, so includes manager, coaching staff, groundsmen, catering staff, turnstile operators, those running the bar and corporate facilities, those in ticket office, club shop, running the operations on the 3g pitches outside the ground, possibly also those running the Trust or community outreach, the media/ comms staff etc, match day stewards, stadium manager etc.

There are 15 staff employed at the academy which until the end of this season has EFL funding ( ie 2 years from relegation)

Its not hard to believe that 60 people are required to run a club when you include non full time staff needed to put on a match on the day



Its clearly not sustainable though as Barnet are losing £100k per month. Imagine that, the Boost the Budget Money being needed to be raised every month not once a year. Barnet's crowds have dwindled and they are averaging less than Darlington are.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:24 am

Football clubs are businesses and as such will be able to get hold of these emergency bridging loans that the government are now sorting out.

If this plan works then a 2 or 3 month layoff may not be terminal. Also there is a train of thought that in these circumstances administration (even temporary) will not incur any points deduction.

It will be hard but with thought hopefully not as bad as some are predicting.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by bigdavethemaddog » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:04 pm

spen666 wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:42 am
Old Git wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:30 am
Sorry for the people at Barnet who face an uncertain future but I cannot help wondering how a small club like them could afford so many non football staff. They are only one league above us. Things will never be the same again for many teams and I am convinced that teams without a sugar daddy will have to adopt a model similar to our own to survive. Just hope we can come through this and with our dedicated team of volunteers and fans I think we can.
60 staff is an easy figure to reach, especially for a club that has been in football league very recently.

It includes all staff, full/ part time other than players, so includes manager, coaching staff, groundsmen, catering staff, turnstile operators, those running the bar and corporate facilities, those in ticket office, club shop, running the operations on the 3g pitches outside the ground, possibly also those running the Trust or community outreach, the media/ comms staff etc, match day stewards, stadium manager etc.

There are 15 staff employed at the academy which until the end of this season has EFL funding ( ie 2 years from relegation)

Its not hard to believe that 60 people are required to run a club when you include non full time staff needed to put on a match on the day



Its clearly not sustainable though as Barnet are losing £100k per month. Imagine that, the Boost the Budget Money being needed to be raised every month not once a year. Barnet's crowds have dwindled and they are averaging less than Darlington are.
ive been to Barnet a few times and they have a decent set up there - quite a decent all weather facility, two cafes and a gym all built into the club structure and paid by the chairman so the closure will hit them hard.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:07 pm

Haven't they done it to claim money from the FA to keep them going till summer then they can recruit them back again??

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by lo36789 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:03 pm

FC United have done an update where their working assumption is the remaining games of the season won't be played.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by Old Git » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:42 pm

At least we won’t feel aggrieved that we have been robbed of a likely promotion due to the curtailment of the season. We are slap bang in the middle of the table and if it is null and voided it makes no difference to where we would start again next season.
On that basis when a resumption happens at least we can plan for a campaign in NLN and directors and AA will hopefully be able to plan accordingly. Also we are fortunate to have a decent group of players and if we can hang on to them we will be in good shape when the resumption does come.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by QUAKERMAN2 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:58 pm

Old Git wrote:At least we won’t feel aggrieved that we have been robbed of a likely promotion due to the curtailment of the season. We are slap bang in the middle of the table and if it is null and voided it makes no difference to where we would start again next season.
On that basis when a resumption happens at least we can plan for a campaign in NLN and directors and AA will hopefully be able to plan accordingly. Also we are fortunate to have a decent group of players and if we can hang on to them we will be in good shape when the resumption does come.
3 good signings plus Holmes,Atkinson and possibly Trotman back and I reckon we will have a very good side capable of a promotion challenge.


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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:02 pm

Hartlepool will be fine. Their Chairman is very experienced at laying people off/not paying bills and that sort of thing.

For clarification I have nothing against Hartlepool, their players or supporters.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by Mister e » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:29 pm

Every cloud has a silver lining Salford city have had their Wembley final cancelled - all together now aaagh.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:33 pm

Mister e wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:29 pm
Every cloud has a silver lining Salford city have had their Wembley final cancelled - all together now aaagh.
I would much rather be forced to watch and cheer them on to win, than deal with what's happening to be honest.

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:56 am

Mister e wrote:Every cloud has a silver lining Salford city have had their Wembley final cancelled - all together now aaagh.
Postponed there is a difference.. A new date to be arranged

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Re: Coronavirus and DFC

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:57 am

Mister e wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:29 pm
Every cloud has a silver lining Salford city have had their Wembley final cancelled - all together now aaagh.
They'll have to cancel the coach that was taking all their supporters down to Wembley!!!

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