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Harvey Saunders

Post by AndyPark » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:51 am

Signed a new deal :clap: :clap:

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by TDS » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:49 am

Good news. Players like him keep the local connection alive. He's due a solid season too.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by al_quaker » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:42 am

Well deserved - he's made great progress this year

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by eddie-rowles » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:51 pm

Signed a new deal but no loan signings to provide adequate support up front or from midfield. TW has put his rose tinted glasses back on stating what a great team we have?

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by Darlo_Pete » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:26 pm

I've changed my opinion about Harvey and he's now showing great promise. Wonder how long a contract he has signed?

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:06 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:I've changed my opinion about Harvey and he's now showing great promise. Wonder how long a contract he has signed?
The problem is Pete our fans don't give players chance to improve they think one bad game and they are Shite .. I will admit I don't think he is the answer to our striker problems BUT I'm glad he is improving and hopefully will continue to do so

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:53 am

HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:I've changed my opinion about Harvey and he's now showing great promise. Wonder how long a contract he has signed?
The problem is Pete our fans don't give players chance to improve they think one bad game and they are Shite .. I will admit I don't think he is the answer to our striker problems BUT I'm glad he is improving and hopefully will continue to do so

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by jjljks » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:14 am

Smart move to protect one of our unpolished diamonds. Really need to clone him several times over to fill the voids which have appeared in our squad. One thing is certain, HS can't get us out of this predicament alone, we need to recruit well and support the team.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by quakerste » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:33 am

Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by tdk1 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:26 am

I like Saunders a lot. He is the only player in the team at the moment that looks properly sharp.

Totally unconnected, he reminds me a little of the actor Dave Franco.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:50 am

quakerste wrote:Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.


Probably for the best to get him sold.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:29 pm

theoriginalfatcat wrote:
quakerste wrote:Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.


Probably for the best to get him sold.
Do you actually think anybody would want to buy him?

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by QUAKERMAN2 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:31 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
quakerste wrote:Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.


Probably for the best to get him sold.
Do you actually think anybody would want to buy him?
No need for that comment, grow up Pete.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by tezza » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:36 pm

quakerste wrote:Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.
Total agreement. Not "So Young" Harvey will never develop into a potent striker at this level or above. He is a headless chicken.

Unless we are paying him £10 per week, extending his contract was being frivolous with the clubs funds.

Should any club be desperate, or stupid to offer a fee snap their hands off.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:44 pm

QUAKERMAN2 wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
quakerste wrote:Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.


Probably for the best to get him sold.
Do you actually think anybody would want to buy him?
No need for that comment, grow up Pete.

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It was a serious question.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:24 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:
QUAKERMAN2 wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
quakerste wrote:Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.


Probably for the best to get him sold.
Do you actually think anybody would want to buy him?
No need for that comment, grow up Pete.

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It was a serious question.
I'm with you Pete.. Maybe if he scores 15/20 goals this season and next then maybe he will be an asset

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by 50 years » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:39 pm

I think that most strikers hit there peak in the mid to late 20's, Harvey has a few years to develop. Think he will do it but needs service. Think Leicester had a similar situation with a lower league player they took on as well - think he turned our ok!!

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by tezza » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:55 pm

50 years wrote:I think that most strikers hit there peak in the mid to late 20's, Harvey has a few years to develop. Think he will do it but needs service. Think Leicester had a similar situation with a lower league player they took on as well - think he turned our ok!!
Go and boil your head

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by Wiseacre » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:38 pm

Saunders looks to me to have the right stuff but it's very hard for a prospect in a poor team. I remember watching Curtis Main in a rotten line up during Colin Todd's tenure. You could see how good he was but his quality was dragged down by poor balls and people not seeing what he was doing. I don't say Saunders is that good but if he could get up and away he could enjoy playing and have a decent career. It's not fair to moan when he can't do it on his own.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by 50 years » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:48 pm

Go and boil your head[/quote]

Clearly I have hit a nerve there Tezza for some reason, by mentioning something I believe to be accurate. From your response you clearly don't agree :lol:

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by H1987 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:50 pm

Happy for him. Well deserved.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:51 pm

50 years wrote:Go and boil your head
Clearly I have hit a nerve there Tezza for some reason, by mentioning something I believe to be accurate. From your response you clearly don't agree :lol:[/quote]


Is Tezza "Ted" ???
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by 50 years » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:52 pm

I don't know, I hardly know anyone personally on this forum, but Tezza clearly doesn't like my head ;)

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by Darlo Dodger » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:09 pm

Wiseacre wrote:Saunders looks to me to have the right stuff but it's very hard for a prospect in a poor team. I remember watching Curtis Main in a rotten line up during Colin Todd's tenure. You could see how good he was but his quality was dragged down by poor balls and people not seeing what he was doing. I don't say Saunders is that good but if he could get up and away he could enjoy playing and have a decent career. It's not fair to moan when he can't do it on his own.
I went to Chester with a mate who has been involved in non league football for many years. One criticism he made was that the midfield repeatedly failed to see good forward passes which were open to them and that Harvey was making runs which should have led to the ball being played through for him but that just wasn’t happening. A forward with pace can ove along the line and get into position to break forward but if the pass doesn’t come, or doesn’t come at the right time we will not find out how good he is or can be.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by tezza » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:21 am

Hate to spoil the near hero worship of some for Harvey, but outside of decent pace I see little other deft football skills. Defenders simply seem to take two steps further up the pitch to neutralise him.
He certainly appears to pose little physical threat to defences.

I am not doubting his commitment and effort, its the end product, or lack of it that is frustrating. As for trying to compare him with Vardy.. really.. imagination stretcher there

I stand to be proven wrong given he now appears to be our main strike weapon, particularly given Ainge immobility and poor fitness.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:24 am

theoriginalfatcat wrote: Is Tezza "Ted" ???
Some think he is, but I don't.
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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by jjljks » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:30 am

If we did not offer Harvey a contract, he could have walked away from this dire predicament the club is in and we would have no fit centre forward to field on Saturday. At least this gives other lads in the Academy one example of being rewarded by the club although I trust it isn't some outlandish £££££ per week.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by al_quaker » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:32 am

tezza wrote:Hate to spoil the near hero worship of some for Harvey, but outside of decent pace I see little other deft football skills. Defenders simply seem to take two steps further up the pitch to neutralise him.
He certainly appears to pose little physical threat to defences.

I am not doubting his commitment and effort, its the end product, or lack of it that is frustrating. As for trying to compare him with Vardy.. really.. imagination stretcher there

I stand to be proven wrong given he now appears to be our main strike weapon, particularly given Ainge immobility and poor fitness.
Saunders has scored 5 goals in 10 starts + 7 sub appearances this season. So roughly 1 in 3. Not a world beater, but a decent enough record and clear improvement from last season.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by tezza » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:39 am

Walked away to where ???

I do not buy using Harvey as an example to what can be achieved by signing up to the DFC Academy as a huge incentive, perhaps I have missed something ?

I doubt given that we are near "fire sale" stage that the club will be paying any extravagant amounts to extend existing players contracted salaries.

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Re: Harvey Saunders

Post by tezza » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:50 am

al_quaker wrote:
tezza wrote:Hate to spoil the near hero worship of some for Harvey, but outside of decent pace I see little other deft football skills. Defenders simply seem to take two steps further up the pitch to neutralise him.
He certainly appears to pose little physical threat to defences.

I am not doubting his commitment and effort, its the end product, or lack of it that is frustrating. As for trying to compare him with Vardy.. really.. imagination stretcher there

I stand to be proven wrong given he now appears to be our main strike weapon, particularly given Ainge immobility and poor fitness.
Saunders has scored 5 goals in 10 starts + 7 sub appearances this season. So roughly 1 in 3. Not a world beater, but a decent enough record and clear improvement from last season.
Lets take his overall performance since debut in January 2017 as a true reflection of his worth , rather than being selective with the stats. Prolific would not be a word that sprung to mind.

As I said , I stand to be proven wrong. He now himself in the place he apparently always wanted to be, there will be no hiding, he can be judged much better as to his real worth between now and season end.

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