The investment

[Magical Quakers]

I can't fathom for the life of me why people are even considering a RS proposal!!!

Once he realised that there was no gains to be made, he walked away with no concern for any future the club might have. And then went out of his way, and against his own word to ensure we nearly died. The man literally stole our name away from us. He can't be trusted. He doesn't even deserve to be spoken to.

I can't believe people are even thinking of getting back into bed with him. Are you for f***ing real???

Yes indeed.

I can't understand why people keeps saying things like:

I don't think people should right off the proposed investment, before the details are known and who is involved with Singh.

But to me any proposal he has made won't be worth the paper it is written on. I do not trust him.

Also what makes it worse is people seem to be happy that he would be using DFC in some way to line his own pockets. If there is even a hint that is part of his plan we need to run for the hills.

I accept that the decision to not accept external investment might mean the end of the road for MG and many of the players. That is part of football. It also shows that the real long-term plans for the club are being put first, rather than chasing the dream of returning to the Football League at any cost.

I would be happy to spend the next 10 years slowly building up the infrastructure around the club, including the youth and reserves setup, that will help us to realise that FL dream when the time is right.

Yes I know that might never come and that crowds will fall and that we will lose more games than we have done in the last 5 years, but I am hopeful that there still we be a DFC to support.

If we sell out for money then I struggle to see how the long term plan for the club can be sustained if the external investment dries up. It would have to be some watertight blind trust gifting of money to have any interest if RS's name is associated to it.

[D_F_C]

I'm willing to listen to the proposal as we have no definitive proof whether it is him or not.

I'm very much leaning to a rejection at this stage (pre-proposal), and I have absolutely no qualms about watching my Darlington FC in the National League North for awhile.

People have short memories about where we were, are and should be.

The money we are spending now is for the ground and we need to remember that once a lot of it is in place, we won't need to spend it again

[tezza]

2nd May "It is our intention to announce a proposal in the coming week which will allow both Darlington FC 1883 Ltd shareholders and Darlington FC Supporters Group members to indicate whether they believe the proposals of external investment should be advanced whilst also hopefully ensuring that the Club does not stagnate until such a time that a detailed proposal can be submitted which is likely to take a number of months."

The above statement is quite clear .. any forthcoming statement will simply be about decision to engage with potential investors, or to kill it stone dead in the water. If its the latter then I would expect some detailed explanation. If it is the former I would not expect any great detail, as it says likely a number of months. I doubt we would even get any names.

[SwansQuaker83]

2nd May "It is our intention to announce a proposal in the coming week which will allow both Darlington FC 1883 Ltd shareholders and Darlington FC Supporters Group members to indicate whether they believe the proposals of external investment should be advanced whilst also hopefully ensuring that the Club does not stagnate until such a time that a detailed proposal can be submitted which is likely to take a number of months."

The above statement is quite clear .. any forthcoming statement will simply be about decision to engage with potential investors, or to kill it stone dead in the water. If its the latter then I would expect some detailed explanation. If it is the former I would not expect any great detail, as it says likely a number of months. I doubt we would even get any names.

Surely if they were just going to ask whether or not we should engage with potential investors they'd have done it by now?

"It is our intention to announce a proposal". That should include some detail and the names of investors.

[al_quaker]

2nd May "It is our intention to announce a proposal in the coming week which will allow both Darlington FC 1883 Ltd shareholders and Darlington FC Supporters Group members to indicate whether they believe the proposals of external investment should be advanced whilst also hopefully ensuring that the Club does not stagnate until such a time that a detailed proposal can be submitted which is likely to take a number of months."

The above statement is quite clear .. any forthcoming statement will simply be about decision to engage with potential investors, or to kill it stone dead in the water. If its the latter then I would expect some detailed explanation. If it is the former I would not expect any great detail, as it says likely a number of months. I doubt we would even get any names.

Surely if they were just going to ask whether or not we should engage with potential investors they'd have done it by now?

"It is our intention to announce a proposal". That should include some detail and the names of investors.

Yes I read it that way. I'm expecting a (rough) outline of what the structure of the club would look like if we go down this path, and then we will be asked if it's worth continuing the discussions to iron out the details, or if we are fundamentally against it.

Hope it's out in the open soon - I have full sympathy with those who are giving up their time to be involved in the discussions, but the way this has come about could soon start damaging the club (the fundraising has dried up - in part possibly due to this uncertainty, and who knows how the planning for next season is going).

[BUSHEAD]

FFS

[al_quaker]

FFS

[SwansQuaker83]

FFS

Is that...

FFS hurry up the waiting is killing me

Or

FFS I've just seen Singh down Blackwell Meadows posing in front of the tin shed with a Darlo scarf

??

[BUSHEAD]

Wait til the announcement comes from the club, but it's gonna be unpopular in my opinion .

[mikkyx]

Wait til the announcement comes from the club, but it's gonna be unpopular in my opinion .

And when will that be?

[H1987]

I can't be the only one who thinks it isn't worth getting upset about something we don't know the details of just yet.

[don'tbuythesun]

What's all this "stagnating" stuff? Three promotions, into the play offs this year, built a ground from scratch. Just raised £40,000 for a pitch. Hardly stagnating!!

[theoriginalfatcat]

[quote="BUSHEAD"]Wait til the announcement comes from the club, but it's gonna be unpopular in my opinion .[/quote

If it's to do with Singh then it will be unpopular - but hopefully won't happen.

I'd rather Gray departed than Singh arrived. UGH - what an awful thought.

[darlodaz]

let Gray go if he does not get what he wants.
yeah, he might get another club but who is to say it's going to work? let's be fair the leagues he has got us out of a lot of managers would have done with our name and budget.
how will his academy do without the club having its name linked with it?

[Emdubya]

let Gray go if he does not get what he wants.
yeah, he might get another club but who is to say it's going to work? let's be fair the leagues he has got us out of a lot of managers would have done with our name and budget.
how will his academy do without the club having its name linked with it?

[HarrytheQuaker]

let Gray go if he does not get what he wants.
yeah, he might get another club but who is to say it's going to work? let's be fair the leagues he has got us out of a lot of managers would have done with our name and budget.
how will his academy do without the club having its name linked with it?

What a statement to make, it's amazing how people are blaming MG and want him out, The amount of time and effort not to say probably some of his own money in to this club and people still slag the man, God some people are never fooking happy let's wait and see what's on the table

[Craig09]

let Gray go if he does not get what he wants.
yeah, he might get another club but who is to say it's going to work? let's be fair the leagues he has got us out of a lot of managers would have done with our name and budget.
how will his academy do without the club having its name linked with it?

What a statement to make, it's amazing how people are blaming MG and want him out, The amount of time and effort not to say probably some of his own money in to this club and people still slag the man, God some people are never fooking happy let's wait and see what's on the table

Totally agree

[lo36789]

What a statement to make, it's amazing how people are blaming MG and want him out, The amount of time and effort not to say probably some of his own money in to this club and people still slag the man, God some people are never fooking happy let's wait and see what's on the table

Wow. MG is our manager - a paid employee - he is not some fan volunteering to run the club.

Non-playing salaries were £70,000 per annum by the last accounts he has made a decent living and wage out of Darlington Football Club and had plenty of free advertising for his other business.

Look he is fully entitled to do that but dear me for fans to think Gray has sacrificed himself for the club for nothing is frankly bizarre.

[darlodaz]

hey, its fooking Gray who said he would walk if he didn't get what he wanted etc.
how much do you think he has the club at heart then? through thick n thin does not come to mind.
yes, he has done a great job but has had a fairly big club for non-leauge and a decent fan base with a big non-leauge budget to play with to entice decent players. all i am saying if he wants to go and hold everyone ransom then for me let him go and we will go from there with someone who will like the challenge of what we are about and trying to achieve steadily.

[Beano]

his own money in to this club

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

[Emdubya]

What a statement to make, it's amazing how people are blaming MG and want him out, The amount of time and effort not to say probably some of his own money in to this club and people still slag the man, God some people are never fooking happy let's wait and see what's on the table

Wow. MG is our manager - a paid employee - he is not some fan volunteering to run the club.

Non-playing salaries were £70,000 per annum by the last accounts he has made a decent living and wage out of Darlington Football Club and had plenty of free advertising for his other business.

Look he is fully entitled to do that but dear me for fans to think Gray has sacrificed himself for the club for nothing is frankly bizarre.

M G,Gregan,Atkinson,Harry Dunn,Phisio,Kit man and probably a couple more I haven't thought of.
70 k split between them doesn't seem that much now does it.Nobody is making Gray out to be a saint but the man deserves to be rewarded for the graft he puts in.Managing at this level isn't just two training sessions a week and Saturday afternoon.

[HarrytheQuaker]

his own money in to this club

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

You know this as a fact do you!!!

[Allan Quatermain]

What a statement to make, it's amazing how people are blaming MG and want him out, The amount of time and effort not to say probably some of his own money in to this club and people still slag the man, God some people are never fooking happy let's wait and see what's on the table

Wow. MG is our manager - a paid employee - he is not some fan volunteering to run the club.

Non-playing salaries were £70,000 per annum by the last accounts he has made a decent living and wage out of Darlington Football Club and had plenty of free advertising for his other business.

Look he is fully entitled to do that but dear me for fans to think Gray has sacrificed himself for the club for nothing is frankly bizarre.

Not to forget that the MGFA has become a very high profile sporting academy in the town since he became manager of the club. Assets in MGFA increased by 300% in the first 3 years of his managership of the football club.

Again, I'm not saying he isn't entitled to do that and am also not saying there's anything wrong with it, just supporting the view that MG hasn't done what he has for the football club simply due to his love for us; there's been great benefit to him as well.

[lo36789]

Look he is fully entitled to do that but dear me for fans to think Gray has sacrificed himself for the club for nothing is frankly bizarre.

M G,Gregan,Atkinson,Harry Dunn,Phisio,Kit man and probably a couple more I haven't thought of.
70 k split between them doesn't seem that much now does it.Nobody is making Gray out to be a saint but the man deserves to be rewarded for the graft he puts in.Managing at this level isn't just two training sessions a week and Saturday afternoon.

Hold up. Has anyone said he isn't entitled to their salary or has everyone said the exact opposite to that.

He is fully entitled to get paid what he is valued at, what I dispute is that he has been unfairly recompensed for his time with the club and suggestions that he has somehow been hard done by. Only Johnson, Morley & Ainsley have had it easier.

[theoriginalfatcat]

So it's official, it is Singh (statement up now on official site) but the other mystery person has not been revealed.

Singh has made no comment at all over the last 5 years about previous events - but now proposes to do an online Netcafe' with Ray Simpson.

I'm lost for words!!!!!!!!!!

[HarrytheQuaker]

Vote RAAAAAAAAAJJJJJJ....

[Mr_Tibbs]

Statement from the DFCSG Board

http://dfcsg.co.uk/?x=entry:entry170509-205028

[HarryCharltonsCat]

Vote RAAAAAAAAAJJJJJJ....

You were either not around 5 years ago, are suffering from amnesia or are Martin Gray.

[HarrytheQuaker]

Vote RAAAAAAAAAJJJJJJ....

You were either not around 5 years ago, are suffering from amnesia or are Martin Gray.

I've supported the club for 30 yrs... Yes what he did hurt but money is money and as it stands it's risk free surly worth listening to..

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[Spyman]

let Gray go if he does not get what he wants.
yeah, he might get another club but who is to say it's going to work? let's be fair the leagues he has got us out of a lot of managers would have done with our name and budget.
how will his academy do without the club having its name linked with it?

What a statement to make, it's amazing how people are blaming MG and want him out, The amount of time and effort not to say probably some of his own money in to this club and people still slag the man, God some people are never fooking happy let's wait and see what's on the table

Apologies if I'm wrong, but weren't you one of those who was critical of the volunteer directors who have given up their own time and money just a couple of weeks ago?

Again, sorry if that wasn't you.

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