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[Sidarlo]

Could be in regards to anything but ..
The first step towards getting somewhere is to decide that you are not going to stay where you are

[AndyPark]

Could be anything, might be something in his home life & nothing to do with football.

But I imagine we will see; did hear rumours of him leaving though. Hope this is wrong.

[theoriginalfatcat]

Could be in regards to anything but ..
The first step towards getting somewhere is to decide that you are not going to stay where you are

~It's a quote by J.P.Morgon, some famous American banker from years ago - he also said " You can't unscramble eggs " which even Darlogramps couldn't argue with.

[Yarblockos]

He can't be too happy being on the bench, but I guess he hasn't been consistent enough in front of goal this season. If Gray wants a new striker Cartman will be gone. He's always worked within the budget, so one in, one out. Personally, I think we need more pace up front, well, more pace all over the team actually.

[Beano]

Cartman is by far our best striker.

I'd be bitterly disappointed if he goes.

[Darlo_Pete]

Cartman is by far our best striker.

I'd be bitterly disappointed if he goes.

Better than Beck? Can't agree with you I'm afraid.

[lo36789]

If Gray wants a new striker Cartman will be gone. He's always worked within the budget

Yeh. Always.

[coles]

Cartman is by far our best striker.

I'd be bitterly disappointed if he goes.

Better than Beck? Can't agree with you I'm afraid.

Totally disagree Pete, for me Beck is one dimensional he is a target man nothing else Cartman is much more intelligent he is a fox in the box but his link up play is also excellent no coincidence that since we lost Armstrong carts has struggled Beck does a job but for me teams have worked him out

[QUAKERMAN2]

Spot on coles,defences have our style sussed now, just put a couple of tall centre backs against us and we struggle, our central defenders are up supporting Beck from set pieces and we are wide open ala Curzon.Would much prefer a total change and have Nathan and Hardy starting and use Beck as an impact sub.


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[JE93]

Cartman is by far our best striker.

I'd be bitterly disappointed if he goes.

Better than Beck? Can't agree with you I'm afraid.

Totally disagree Pete, for me Beck is one dimensional he is a target man nothing else Cartman is much more intelligent he is a fox in the box but his link up play is also excellent no coincidence that since we lost Armstrong carts has struggled Beck does a job but for me teams have worked him out

Don't think enough people give Beck credit for how good he is with the ball at his feet. It's certainly not his fault the ball arrives to him 8 feet in the air. Certainly been one of our best and most consistent performers this season.

[Quakerz]

Spot on coles,defences have our style sussed now, just put a couple of tall centre backs against us and we struggle, our central defenders are up supporting Beck from set pieces and we are wide open ala Curzon.Would much prefer a total change and have Nathan and Hardy starting and use Beck as an impact sub.


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Impact sub, you've got to be having a laugh

Beck is leading scorer with 12 goals, so on target for 18-20 goals, has a physical presence which unsettles defenders, and his knockdowns and lay offs find their man more often than not, which is unusual for a target man at this level.

You can't play Cartman and Hardy together against big, tough, organised defences because they wouldn't get a kick. Both are better off playing next to a bigger player who they can feed off.

[al_quaker]

Cartman is by far our best striker.

I'd be bitterly disappointed if he goes.

Better than Beck? Can't agree with you I'm afraid.

Totally disagree Pete, for me Beck is one dimensional he is a target man nothing else Cartman is much more intelligent he is a fox in the box but his link up play is also excellent no coincidence that since we lost Armstrong carts has struggled Beck does a job but for me teams have worked him out

Don't think enough people give Beck credit for how good he is with the ball at his feet. It's certainly not his fault the ball arrives to him 8 feet in the air. Certainly been one of our best and most consistent performers this season.

Fully agree - Beck is not just a target man, and he's comfortably been our best striker this season. He's going to struggle if all we do is launch the ball to him, as that's incredibly easy to defend.

I like Cartman, and I think he's a good player. However, he has barely scored this season. His all round play is good, but is it good enough to justify a spot as a striker if you're barely scoring? One for MG to decide. Saying that, I do hope he stays, and that the goals recently kick start his season.

[leedscol]

I'd hate for him to go too.Top lad.
Bet Halifax would snap him up like a shot.

[QUAKERMAN2]

Take your point Quakerz, not having a go at Beck as he is a threat but would like to see how Carts and Hardy get on for a few games and play to feet more obviously completely altering our style of play, worth trying but cannot see MG taking Beck out.Priority obviously is clean sheets as rarely do we fail to score.

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[D_F_C]

I think when you're comparing Beck and Cartman you shouldn't say who is better, but who is more effective. I find Beck more effective

[HarryCharltonsCat]

With the way we set up to play, Beck is bound to be more effective. When he plays, Cartman has to do all the running of the channels now, and all the closing down, as Beck does neither to any great extent. As such, Cartman is bound to score less goals. Armstrong was more mobile, and shared the load to a greater extent, and Cartman was more effective as a result. Personally, I find Beck rather weak at times, when faced with defenders who aren't intimidated, as per Saturday, and when he's not winning his headers, I don't think he offers a lot else. But you won't see him subbed.

Now Denton isn't getting a game at Halifax (and how they've improved for playing the ball on the deck for a change), would it be a surprise for Gray to go the whole hog, and swap him for Cartman?

[QUAKERMAN2]

Would be gutted if Denton came as a swap for Nathan, interesting that Halifax have picked up with a change in playing style, that was my point earlier, why not give it a go, nothing to lose.

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[m62exile]

We love Carts and he loves us. I think, at least.

So I'd be surprised if he announced he wanted to leave on twitter. And disappointed.

Hopefully it's nothing.

[bga]

Spot on coles,defences have our style sussed now, just put a couple of tall centre backs against us and we struggle, our central defenders are up supporting Beck from set pieces and we are wide open ala Curzon.Would much prefer a total change and have Nathan and Hardy starting and use Beck as an impact sub.


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Impact sub, you've got to be having a laugh

Beck is leading scorer with 12 goals, so on target for 18-20 goals, has a physical presence which unsettles defenders, and his knockdowns and lay offs find their man more often than not, which is unusual for a target man at this level.


bga wrote. We have maybe been to different games this season (I have seen 7 featuring Beck) but I have to disagree with your claim more than 50% of his knockdowns and lay offs find their man more often than not. I can only comment on what I have seen which is we often lose the ball more from this tactic than retain possession.

I do agree his physical presence is a threat and goals per game ratio is good. If only he could find a Darlo player more often!
You can't play Cartman and Hardy together against big, tough, organised defences because they wouldn't get a kick. Both are better off playing next to a bigger player who they can feed off.

[loan_star]

Armstrong was more mobile, and shared the load to a greater extent, and Cartman was more effective as a result.

In the division below of course. Teams are far more organised at this level including some that are full time.
I think you have rose tinted glasses somewhat. Beck is just as effective as Armstrong was but at a higher level.

[darlo reborn]

This is a far tougher league than the one we have just left it`s the equivalent to some of the players who started with us going from league 2 to the premiership in 4 seasons in some respect

[quakerste]

We have got to get back to how we were playing pre Harrogate mixing it up with a bit of direct play as well as at times good flowing passing football.

For me get Falkingham back into the middle with Turnbull, Gillies and Thommo out wide and let them dictate the play with the ball rather than Browny and Burgess launching it forward.

Cartman for me is essential in this his movement, workrate and holdup play bringing the midfield into the game is excellent. The only thing letting him down has been the number of goals he has scored, however if we get back on it I believe he will bag a few before the end of the season. The only thing he does lack is pace.

We haven't become a bad team over night iron a few things out at the back, possibly bring in a more mobile experienced centre half but in the mean time be more disciplined and stop Browny and Burgess constantly over committing at every set piece, corner and throwins, this for me is where we are extremely vulnerable. Rant over

[onewayup]

How can anyone criticize the little fella, he's not getting full games as he was ,so chances to score are a lot more limited, wouldn't criticize him at all he's done a great job so far ,long may he stay and perform for us, he will score more goals for us this season given the chance.

[m62exile]

For me get Falkingham back into the middle with Turnbull, Gillies and Thommo out wide and let them dictate the play with the ball rather than Browny and Burgess launching it forward.

Problem with that midfield four is we might never have the ball to dictate anything. All individually good players, but together too weak for this league, IMO.

[Beano]

For me get Falkingham back into the middle with Turnbull, Gillies and Thommo out wide and let them dictate the play with the ball rather than Browny and Burgess launching it forward.

Problem with that midfield four is we might never have the ball to dictate anything. All individually good players, but together too weak for this league, IMO.

You've hit the nail on the head, M62. Our gung-ho 442 is leaving our defence exposed time and time again.

We either signing a nasty bugger or two, or change shape.

[HarryCharltonsCat]

Armstrong was more mobile, and shared the load to a greater extent, and Cartman was more effective as a result.

In the division below of course. Teams are far more organised at this level including some that are full time.
I think you have rose tinted glasses somewhat. Beck is just as effective as Armstrong was but at a higher level.

Our goals for tally, and the for and against in the division as a whole, suggests defences are not as organised as you're making out. Who knows how Armstrong would have done. I wasn't hankering for him specifically, I was pointing out that his game suited Cartman more.

[theoriginalfatcat]

This is a far tougher league than the one we have just left it`s the equivalent to some of the players who started with us going from league 2 to the premiership in 4 seasons in some respect

We went to the Spennymoor/Coalville game a week last Saturday.

It was a good game (especially with a 40/1 bet on 5 nil ) and S'moor looked well organised and efficient, however you could tell the quality of the opposition was nowhere near what we are now faced with, week after week - and we seem run down by it all.

We started off bright enough this season but the slump now must be getting M.G. and team concerned - a few of our players (not Cartman) look to me to be out of their depth.

[Spyman]

Happens all the time - newly promoted teams start the season well because confidence and momentum is high. After a while reality bites.

Remember, this team, on and off the pitch, has never had to deal with a serious loss in form/confidence and so have little experience in turning things round.

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[Neil Johnson]

He can't be too happy being on the bench, but I guess he hasn't been consistent enough in front of goal this season. If Gray wants a new striker Cartman will be gone. He's always worked within the budget, so one in, one out. Personally, I think we need more pace up front, well, more pace all over the team actually.

Purewal, Dowson, Armstrong, Gaskill and maybe Hardy out.

Not so able to rotate strikers nowadays.

Beck seems to be an ever present, when maybe more guile than strength is needed in a front two.

[lo36789]

Beck seems to be an ever present, when maybe more guile than strength is needed in a front two.

How can Beck possibly be the problem? We are actually still scoring goals (well he is) - we are just shipping more than we score - when until this point we have just outscored other teams.