Trouble at Rushall
Trouble at Rushall
Sad to see a few Darlington fans making what appeared to be monkey noises before the match and directed at one of the black players for the opposition today. From where I was stood it looked like the police escorted some of them out at the start of the match.
However it was equally ridiculous to see some of the Rushall players (including the individual who had racist abuse directed at him), stood outside the Rushall dressing room after the match, eyeballing Darlington fans as they celebrated. It was provocative and could have resulted in a serious incident especially when several Rushall players started to get involved. Fortunately the stewards got involved and managed to move the fans on, but not the brightest thing to do on the part of the Rushall players.
Both incidents were avoidable and left a bitter taste to what was a day of celebration for Darlo.
However it was equally ridiculous to see some of the Rushall players (including the individual who had racist abuse directed at him), stood outside the Rushall dressing room after the match, eyeballing Darlington fans as they celebrated. It was provocative and could have resulted in a serious incident especially when several Rushall players started to get involved. Fortunately the stewards got involved and managed to move the fans on, but not the brightest thing to do on the part of the Rushall players.
Both incidents were avoidable and left a bitter taste to what was a day of celebration for Darlo.
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Really odd that. I thought they were shouting yoof yoof yoof as I was over the other side. I hope our regulars said something as it's something we can well do without. Some people defo the worse for drink...walking into walls and stuff!!!
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I was stood there and clearly shouted monkey monkey, black **** and making monkey noises... The players were shooting at goal not sure if they were doing it on purpose by shooting in the crowd which got the yoofs incensed... But does not excuse the chants, to many beers on board doesn't help... Shame cos we don't need this
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If I'd been racially abused I'd want retribution too.
No blame can be apportioned to Rushall players if the allegations are true.
No blame can be apportioned to Rushall players if the allegations are true.
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There was 1 bloke in particular who was making said gestures and thankfully he got escorted out. But what happened after the game was a total farce really, Rushall players goading Darlington fans looking for a fight, even though we were just celebrating and having a good time! The stewards/coaching staff didn't help the situation, all they had to do was send their lads back into their changing room until the fans had cleared. Instead they let them stand behind a gate and shout abuse at Darlington fans...
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ThisDarlo Fonz wrote:There was 1 bloke in particular who was making said gestures and thankfully he got escorted out. But what happened after the game was a total farce really, Rushall players goading Darlington fans looking for a fight, even though we were just celebrating and having a good time! The stewards/coaching staff didn't help the situation, all they had to do was send their lads back into their changing room until the fans had cleared. Instead they let them stand behind a gate and shout abuse at Darlington fans...
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The monkey chants were even more brainless, given that some of the Rushall stewards were black, and also we have black players as well. Guess the people who do it are such Neanderthals that this doesn't cross their minds. Our chief steward was there (forgotten his name) and intervened to calm the situation down and escort the lads out.
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Only the rushall players causing an issue at the end. They knew what they were doing. That's the sad thing. Saying that. No place for any racism if that's true
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The sad thing is that we have idiots making monkey noises. Don't try and gloss it over with reaction of players after game. Frankly, some of our "fans" are an embarrasment. I hope our chief steward makes it known to the club who the intellectually challenged "fans" he escorted out are, so we don't have to suffer their presence next year.
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Agree with Harry - I was close to the incident and could not quite believe it in this day and age and from the reaction of most others neither could anyone else - the Neanderthal in the white top might have been dragging his knuckles but but he was intent on causing offence & trouble and persisted for 5-10 mins until the police arrived, it was lucky to not all kick off at that point with the Rushall players.
Needs a complete and long ban - identification will be easy as he was at least cautioned by the local constabulary and I am told by the Steward, arrested....
Needs a complete and long ban - identification will be easy as he was at least cautioned by the local constabulary and I am told by the Steward, arrested....
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Shameful. I really think they've got to make an example of people like this - I hope there's enough evidence to throw the book at him...
Incitement to racial hatred - section 18 Public Order Act 1986
Offence
s.18 - using threatening/abusive/insulting words or behaviour or displaying written material with intent/likely to stir up racial hatred
Maximum Penalty
Crown Court - 7 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court - 6 months
Notes
Can only be prosecuted with consent of Attorney General. Referred to CPS Counter Terrorism Division to be dealt with by specialist prosecutor.
Incitement to racial hatred - section 18 Public Order Act 1986
Offence
s.18 - using threatening/abusive/insulting words or behaviour or displaying written material with intent/likely to stir up racial hatred
Maximum Penalty
Crown Court - 7 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court - 6 months
Notes
Can only be prosecuted with consent of Attorney General. Referred to CPS Counter Terrorism Division to be dealt with by specialist prosecutor.
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really upsetting to know that there still people out there who do this, even more so that it is within our own fans base.
Needs to be dealt with, and I'd hope with policy involvement. It is completely inexcusable.
It has to be the same people surely? It cannot simply be coincidence that whenever there is a 'big' game there is something that happens?
Needs to be dealt with, and I'd hope with policy involvement. It is completely inexcusable.
It has to be the same people surely? It cannot simply be coincidence that whenever there is a 'big' game there is something that happens?
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It was also alcohol fuelled, so much so that the bar was closed from 3.15pm until 5.00. Rushall fans couldn't even go to their social club at half time. I bet they're glad we're not coming next season.
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I'm sure from conference north upwards there is an alcohol ban on coaches anyway. Might stop a few people getting tanked up during the trip.
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These things are normally charged as Racially Aggravated Public Order offences, depending on what was said/done.Mr_Tibbs wrote:Shameful. I really think they've got to make an example of people like this - I hope there's enough evidence to throw the book at him...
Incitement to racial hatred - section 18 Public Order Act 1986
Offence
s.18 - using threatening/abusive/insulting words or behaviour or displaying written material with intent/likely to stir up racial hatred
Maximum Penalty
Crown Court - 7 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court - 6 months
Notes
Can only be prosecuted with consent of Attorney General. Referred to CPS Counter Terrorism Division to be dealt with by specialist prosecutor.
Never argue with an idiot: The best possible outcome is that you win an argument with an idiot.
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Check your post before sending Harry!.........."I was stood there and clearly shouted monkey monkey, black **** and making monkey noises" Or you will be getting a lifetime ban!HarrytheQuaker wrote:I was stood there and clearly shouted monkey monkey, black **** and making monkey noises... The players were shooting at goal not sure if they were doing it on purpose by shooting in the crowd which got the yoofs incensed... But does not excuse the chants, to many beers on board doesn't help... Shame cos we don't need this
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We do not want or need these moronic mindless thugs who only seem to appear at Times of Darlington fc big games ,I,e play offs last year ,salford,and Blyth,and yesterday, if you know them your information would be welcomed at the club to help get them banned.and keep our club clean .
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Sounds like plenty would recognise him although I guess he is a "once or twice a season big games only" attendee.
Presume everyone who recognised him has named and shamed him to the club?
If not, why not ????
Presume everyone who recognised him has named and shamed him to the club?
If not, why not ????
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Mr_Tibbs wrote:Shameful. I really think they've got to make an example of people like this - I hope there's enough evidence to throw the book at him...
Incitement to racial hatred - section 18 Public Order Act 1986
Offence
s.18 - using threatening/abusive/insulting words or behaviour or displaying written material with intent/likely to stir up racial hatred
Maximum Penalty
Crown Court - 7 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court - 6 months
Notes
Can only be prosecuted with consent of Attorney General. Referred to CPS Counter Terrorism Division to be dealt with by specialist prosecutor.
There is NO CHANCE of that offence being charged or made out for what happened. The behaviour described whilst wrong and not acceptable is not likely to incite racial hatred. Inciting racial hatred is more likely to be when you are making racially inflamatory speeches blaming for example the Muslims for all the problems and encouraging people to run them out of the country.
Any case that needs the AG's consent is a very serious offence.
Racially Aggravated S4 Public Order Act is a more likely offence. That carries a prison sentence as a maximum penalty but it is more likely that a community sentence would be imposed.
Incidentally, because of the promotion to National League North, football banning orders do apply, so if anyone has a banning order they cant go to Darlo games. So, those idiots who attach themselves to Darlo for big games could now find themselves banned for a minimum of 3 years from Darlo games ( and all football league, premiership, international games etc).
Hopefully this will give club a powerful weapon to deal with the few idiots who behave like this
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I would hope not, as Islam is a religion, not a race.spen666 wrote:Inciting racial hatred is more likely to be when you are making racially inflamatory speeches blaming for example the Muslims for all the problems and encouraging people to run them out of the country.
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If the club are serious about banning people who are known to cause trouble at matches then can someone please explain why that tub of lard Firthy still gets into home games, never mind away games!!?? This is a bloke caught on film chucking pint glasses in a pub and yet he is there every game. The club make themselves look a soft touch at times. Time they took action.
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Seconded.loan_star wrote:If the club are serious about banning people who are known to cause trouble at matches then can someone please explain why that tub of lard Firthy still gets into home games, never mind away games!!?? This is a bloke caught on film chucking pint glasses in a pub and yet he is there every game. The club make themselves look a soft touch at times. Time they took action.
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Totally agree he should of been banned ages ago from attending gamesloan_star wrote:If the club are serious about banning people who are known to cause trouble at matches then can someone please explain why that tub of lard Firthy still gets into home games, never mind away games!!?? This is a bloke caught on film chucking pint glasses in a pub and yet he is there every game. The club make themselves look a soft touch at times. Time they took action.
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Assuming the person in question is Steven/Stephen Firth, some may find this very difficult to believe but as a kid he was not a lardarse and was a handy footballer (he was a Beardsley type player). He was in the year below me at school but he was as thick as a whale omelette so it's not surprising he's become the person he has.loan_star wrote:If the club are serious about banning people who are known to cause trouble at matches then can someone please explain why that tub of lard Firthy still gets into home games, never mind away games!!?? This is a bloke caught on film chucking pint glasses in a pub and yet he is there every game. The club make themselves look a soft touch at times. Time they took action.
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Lol....yeah not me I addbga wrote:Check your post before sending Harry!.........."I was stood there and clearly shouted monkey monkey, black **** and making monkey noises" Or you will be getting a lifetime ban!HarrytheQuaker wrote:I was stood there and clearly shouted monkey monkey, black **** and making monkey noises... The players were shooting at goal not sure if they were doing it on purpose by shooting in the crowd which got the yoofs incensed... But does not excuse the chants, to many beers on board doesn't help... Shame cos we don't need this
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Agree with all said. This behaviour is only going to get worse next season if not nipped in the bud now! I have heard first hand that plans are already in place for next season "big games". I won't be bringing my 9 year old son to games anymore for his own safety. That's a real shame.
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I'm disappointed to hear that. I've taken my kids all over the country and very rarely seen or heard any bother. A bit of mouthing off at Shrewsbury and Rotherham, a kick off in the corner at Bournemouth and handbags at Salford. It's easy to avoid any problems if you keep your eyes open. Seems a bit out if proportion to me. It's not the seventies!!
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All club have knob head fans - and we seem to be well endowed with our share.
Lets not let them dampen the celebrations however.
I plan on bringing my kid to matches soon, but if our fans cant act in a civilized manner then I wont go back, its a shame.
Lets not let them dampen the celebrations however.
I plan on bringing my kid to matches soon, but if our fans cant act in a civilized manner then I wont go back, its a shame.
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It's not the home games as much but the away games. 3 times we have gone this season away and 3 times been trouble. Once in the pub we were in having some food. When my pop took me to away games in late 80's early 90's throughout I always felt safe. This bunch are a different breed. It needs to stop now. We a family club not a fight club
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Fantastic season mind and proud of dfc