New signing
New signing
Nathan Evans, 21 year old left winger who was on the books of Wycombe last season after winning Samsung's annual talent spotting competition.
Was schooled at Newcastle United and has appeared for Whitby and Scarborough in the past.
Was schooled at Newcastle United and has appeared for Whitby and Scarborough in the past.
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Hope he doesn't need international clearance
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Contracted or just registered player?
Alun's promise to the fans: “I’ll make sure I’ll bring players in that are value for money and I want players that want to play for Darlington Football Club, want to progress and move up the league and show the fans that passion.”
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Did we pay a fee and was it cost neutral?
I demand answers!
I demand answers!
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Why are we signing players when we should be building a new £5m stand in the middle of Darlo market place?
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Having learnt today what Hardy cost then doesn't surprise me. We obviously aren't fussed we have a deficit and continuing to blow money on transfer fees at this level. Then it will be up to the fans to plug the hole. Crazy
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What have you learned?.All we know on here is rumour and bullshit.Or is that what you've learned?Quaker0006 wrote:Having learnt today what Hardy cost then doesn't surprise me. We obviously aren't fussed we have a deficit and continuing to blow money on transfer fees at this level. Then it will be up to the fans to plug the hole. Crazy
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The club have said the transfer was cost neutral. Who would you rather believe, our club or some bloke off the street? If you are accusing the club of lying then please be specific.Quaker0006 wrote:Having learnt today what Hardy cost then doesn't surprise me. We obviously aren't fussed we have a deficit and continuing to blow money on transfer fees at this level. Then it will be up to the fans to plug the hole. Crazy
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There's no need for that Les. That's a childish response to reasonable questions.super_les_mcjannet wrote:Did we pay a fee and was it cost neutral?
I demand answers!
We're getting a lot of that on here from club loyalists recently.
Anyway enough negativity. Today's a good day for the football club.
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Well if someone works out what cost neutral actually means then I will let you know.loan_star wrote:The club have said the transfer was cost neutral. Who would you rather believe, our club or some bloke off the street? If you are accusing the club of lying then please be specific.Quaker0006 wrote:Having learnt today what Hardy cost then doesn't surprise me. We obviously aren't fussed we have a deficit and continuing to blow money on transfer fees at this level. Then it will be up to the fans to plug the hole. Crazy
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super_les_mcjannet wrote:Did we pay a fee and was it cost neutral?
I demand answers!
I've thought since Youhill left we have been short of a wide player, so not surprised we've brought someone in. Decent pedigree, so will be interesting to see how he gets on.
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Jury's out on this one for me. I'm sure this is the second time he has signed for us after a brief spell in the NL season or on trial one summer, can't remember now.
He played against us for Scarborough last season at their place and didn't really impress me. Can't see it lasting but we'll see
He played against us for Scarborough last season at their place and didn't really impress me. Can't see it lasting but we'll see
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At 21 his best days should be in front of him.
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My theory-Quaker0006 wrote:Well if someone works out what cost neutral actually means then I will let you know.
Cost neutral = if before the ins and outs we were spending £XX on players wages per week, to end up within the seasons budget of £YY- then after the ins and outs we still end up paying £XX per week, which will still end up within the budget of £YY.
If the books didn't allow wiggle room for any transfer fee or possible extra expenses, then a donation from a fan or similar previously unaccounted for money would cover this shortfall.
I give you ......Cost neutral.
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A lot of "ifs" and unknowns in that though. No one knows for certain (apart from those involved in the deal of course).theoriginalfatcat wrote:My theory-Quaker0006 wrote:Well if someone works out what cost neutral actually means then I will let you know.
Cost neutral = if before the ins and outs we were spending £XX on players wages per week, to end up within the seasons budget of £YY- then after the ins and outs we still end up paying £XX per week, which will still end up within the budget of £YY.
If the books didn't allow wiggle room for any transfer fee or possible extra expenses, then a donation from a fan or similar previously unaccounted for money would cover this shortfall.
I give you ......Cost neutral.
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Thats where trust in those involved is needed. Not criticism.Darlogramps wrote:A lot of "ifs" and unknowns in that though. No one knows for certain (apart from those involved in the deal of course).theoriginalfatcat wrote:My theory-Quaker0006 wrote:Well if someone works out what cost neutral actually means then I will let you know.
Cost neutral = if before the ins and outs we were spending £XX on players wages per week, to end up within the seasons budget of £YY- then after the ins and outs we still end up paying £XX per week, which will still end up within the budget of £YY.
If the books didn't allow wiggle room for any transfer fee or possible extra expenses, then a donation from a fan or similar previously unaccounted for money would cover this shortfall.
I give you ......Cost neutral.
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That's subjective. If people choose to trust, that's up to them although they can't then complain if things go wrong. If people choose to be more wary, that's also down to them.loan_star wrote:Thats where trust in those involved is needed. Not criticism.Darlogramps wrote:A lot of "ifs" and unknowns in that though. No one knows for certain (apart from those involved in the deal of course).theoriginalfatcat wrote: My theory-
Cost neutral = if before the ins and outs we were spending £XX on players wages per week, to end up within the seasons budget of £YY- then after the ins and outs we still end up paying £XX per week, which will still end up within the budget of £YY.
If the books didn't allow wiggle room for any transfer fee or possible extra expenses, then a donation from a fan or similar previously unaccounted for money would cover this shortfall.
I give you ......Cost neutral.
But we trusted the likes of Houghton and Singh, and look what happened. They abused that trust and screwed the club over.
It was hardly plain sailing under Denis Pinnegar et al either, so you can't blame fans for asking questions.
I'd also like to point out yet again I haven't criticised the current board. I've raised questions and said I'd like to know more details about the Hardy deal. That's not criticism.
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if we went on to sign another forward called "Laurel" Gramps ??
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So long as we could afford him.theoriginalfatcat wrote:Wouldn't it be hilarious if we went on to sign another forward called "Laurel" Gramps ??
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Surely you me can as long as the deal was cost neutral!Darlogramps wrote:So long as we could afford him.theoriginalfatcat wrote:Wouldn't it be hilarious if we went on to sign another forward called "Laurel" Gramps ??
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Current players wont be happy ! The players will know what I mean
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'Look at me, look at me'.Nemesis wrote:Current players wont be happy ! The players will know what I mean
Ugh.
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Hmmph another fine mess you're getting me into, Stanley.theoriginalfatcat wrote:Wouldn't it be hilarious if we went on to sign another forward called "Laurel" Gramps ??
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This lad never got a first team game at Wycombe, still got alot to do only 21 time's on his side.
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Overall the transfer was cost neutral. Parts of the transaction may have had a cost, but once everything balances this was cost neutral to the club.loan_star wrote:The club have said the transfer was cost neutral. Who would you rather believe, our club or some bloke off the street? If you are accusing the club of lying then please be specific.Quaker0006 wrote:Having learnt today what Hardy cost then doesn't surprise me. We obviously aren't fussed we have a deficit and continuing to blow money on transfer fees at this level. Then it will be up to the fans to plug the hole. Crazy
Not saying everything is ran to my satisfaction as a fan, but this has not resulted in any additional deficit to the current financial position of the club.
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As an aside, what exactly wasn't plain sailing under Denis Pinnegar ? Care to share ?Darlogramps wrote:loan_star wrote:[quote="DarlogrampsIt was hardly plain sailing under Denis Pinnegar et al either, so you can't blame fans for asking questions.
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We ran out of money & had to do an emergency cash call IIRC. It was never really explained why.AnthonyP wrote:As an aside, what exactly wasn't plain sailing under Denis Pinnegar ? Care to share ?Darlogramps wrote:loan_star wrote:[quote="DarlogrampsIt was hardly plain sailing under Denis Pinnegar et al either, so you can't blame fans for asking questions.
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The Inland Revenue never had anything to do with the club during that period, Robbie, certainly as far as I was aware and I probably should know something about it.
The forecast for crowds in that initial period was set at a number, and revised as regularly as possible I seem to recall, as crowds didn't reach that number on a consistent basis, but anything to do with IIRC must have been after the Northern League season.
Frankly people are working from memory on a subject that they have very little complete knowledge about and by gossiping and naming names are actually reducing the chance of people with knowledge of both the football and business world getting involved to stabilise our club as we move up the divisions.
What this club needs right now is a business brain that incorporates the perspective of a fan, and unfortunately I know that Denis, for one, won't touch the club again with a bargepole due to what he perceives as an inherent criticism of things while the club was under his stewardship at a very difficult time. A shame, but those of you with sharp tongues can thank yourselves for that one and our future is just that little bit less certain in my opinion.
Mistakes were made in some areas I would imagine - no doubt - but knowing him as I do very few requests for funds will have been agreed to without them being fully justified - and to cite Thommo and Tez as examples, these all worked.
People can gossip and supposition can be put together on message boards, but naming people incorrectly is simply wrong.
I say very little on here as I have very little to say, but I read the boards with great interest on occasion. Certain people boil my piss with their statements, while others come across as very thoughtful, articulate and intelligent.
We should all be mindful of where the club is going, and, subject to promotion, next season the management of the clubs finances between the manager and board will be vital in that it needs to find a fine line between pushing the club on, whilst not unnecessarily committing the clubs future down the river. A hard job to handle that one, particular with the gossipers ....
The forecast for crowds in that initial period was set at a number, and revised as regularly as possible I seem to recall, as crowds didn't reach that number on a consistent basis, but anything to do with IIRC must have been after the Northern League season.
Frankly people are working from memory on a subject that they have very little complete knowledge about and by gossiping and naming names are actually reducing the chance of people with knowledge of both the football and business world getting involved to stabilise our club as we move up the divisions.
What this club needs right now is a business brain that incorporates the perspective of a fan, and unfortunately I know that Denis, for one, won't touch the club again with a bargepole due to what he perceives as an inherent criticism of things while the club was under his stewardship at a very difficult time. A shame, but those of you with sharp tongues can thank yourselves for that one and our future is just that little bit less certain in my opinion.
Mistakes were made in some areas I would imagine - no doubt - but knowing him as I do very few requests for funds will have been agreed to without them being fully justified - and to cite Thommo and Tez as examples, these all worked.
People can gossip and supposition can be put together on message boards, but naming people incorrectly is simply wrong.
I say very little on here as I have very little to say, but I read the boards with great interest on occasion. Certain people boil my piss with their statements, while others come across as very thoughtful, articulate and intelligent.
We should all be mindful of where the club is going, and, subject to promotion, next season the management of the clubs finances between the manager and board will be vital in that it needs to find a fine line between pushing the club on, whilst not unnecessarily committing the clubs future down the river. A hard job to handle that one, particular with the gossipers ....
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I think you are slightly mistaken Anthony: IIRC means "if I remember correctly", not Inland Revenue.
Unless I'm misunderstanding what I think might be your misunderstanding
Unless I'm misunderstanding what I think might be your misunderstanding