Blackwell meadows ????

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by aveda » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:07 am

lo36789 wrote:
cameron-darlo wrote:Anyone expecting us to be There this season needs to get real. I'd expect another 18 months at Bishop.
Please do explain what will take 18months?

Perimeter fence -
Fitting temporary stand -
Re-erecting Tin Shed Roof -
Fitting portakabin changing facilities -
Hardstanding -

I think that is all that needs to be in place to actually move back according to the FA rules. The car park/end terrace are things that can be developed.

Beyond admin I'd be suprised if the actual work couldn't be completed in a month.
One of the aspects which the Council will look at when considering the planning application will be the effect on the highway - extra traffic generated, where fans will park etc. As such it can put conditions on relating to parking etc. Therefore, just because the FA isn't bothered whether or not we have a car park, it doesn't mean that the Council won't want it in place before the ground is up and running.

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by loan_star » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:11 am

aveda wrote:
lo36789 wrote:
cameron-darlo wrote:Anyone expecting us to be There this season needs to get real. I'd expect another 18 months at Bishop.
Please do explain what will take 18months?

Perimeter fence -
Fitting temporary stand -
Re-erecting Tin Shed Roof -
Fitting portakabin changing facilities -
Hardstanding -

I think that is all that needs to be in place to actually move back according to the FA rules. The car park/end terrace are things that can be developed.

Beyond admin I'd be suprised if the actual work couldn't be completed in a month.
One of the aspects which the Council will look at when considering the planning application will be the effect on the highway - extra traffic generated, where fans will park etc. As such it can put conditions on relating to parking etc. Therefore, just because the FA isn't bothered whether or not we have a car park, it doesn't mean that the Council won't want it in place before the ground is up and running.
As we know, the council just loves making parking awkward for football fans whereas rugby fans can park for free wherever they like.
There should be no stipulations put on the football club that hasnt been enforced on Mowden rugby club.

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by lo36789 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:47 am

Do all clubs have a car park? I don't know if that is the case? I would have thought parking enforcement to make sure people aren't doing anything stupid would cover for a period of time.

Just a thought, more people attend the fireworks in South Park than come to Darlington matches.

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by lo36789 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:52 am

super_les_mcjannet wrote:The changes to the clubhouse, with a front door entrance for players etc could well be the main things that takes the longest time. The rest as you say are not the biggest stumbling blocks.
Is that needed immediately though? I keep going back to grounds I have been to this season. AFC Fylde have 4 portacabins. They don't even have a club house. The players and officials gather in an area behind a fence before the game.

Ramsbottom I think had a portacabin as well and the players just sort of spill out on to the pitch and a metal fence panel is manually put into place by a steward beforehand.

That sort of stuff seems more than the minimum requirement which surely is the first aim - especially if it won't have big sunk costs.

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:46 am

Return home "unlikely before Christmas"

Story - this morning on the Echo website. I'd put a link up but don't know how.

It could well be near the end of the season, if it all in my view.
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Post by super_les_mcjannet » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:08 am

I do switch off when I read comments like that, just thrown in looking for a rise from someone.

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by m62exile » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:10 am

Did anyone think it was going to be before Christmas in any case?

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Post by super_les_mcjannet » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:21 am

m62exile wrote:Did anyone think it was going to be before Christmas in any case?
Ermm.... :eh: Nope!

As long as we can see progression, then no issue with Bishop this season and BM launch next summer. It will happen of that I am confident so the news was no surprise or issue this morning.

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by lo36789 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:32 am

I don't remember it ever being said it would be Christmas?

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Post by Darlo Till I Die » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:09 am

lo36789 wrote:I don't remember it ever being said it would be Christmas?
That's always been said.,. My MJ and MG.
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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by Darlofan97 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:11 am

No promises have ever been made regarding our move home. I don't think anyone really expected that we'd be back in Darlington by Christmas.

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by charlie » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:02 am

Darlo Till I Die wrote:
lo36789 wrote:I don't remember it ever being said it would be Christmas?
That's always been said.,. My MJ and MG.
No it hasn't always been said, the Christmas thing came about when Martin Gray appeared on late kick off and upon being asked when Darlo would be coming home his reply was hopefully by Christmas.

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Post by lo36789 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:06 am

I always thought it was said early 2015? So January/February. Guess we will find out soon enough!

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Post by Darlo Till I Die » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:41 am

charlie wrote:
Darlo Till I Die wrote:
lo36789 wrote:I don't remember it ever being said it would be Christmas?
That's always been said.,. My MJ and MG.
No it hasn't always been said, the Christmas thing came about when Martin Gray appeared on late kick off and upon being asked when Darlo would be coming home his reply was hopefully by Christmas.
I don't think anyone in their right minds would have been thinking we would be back by Christmas though... Just not foreseeable!
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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by dickdarlington » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:15 am

Just seen this about Nene Park (R&DFC) being demolished. It was a really tidy little ground, and was still being maintained. What chance we can liberate some crush barriers/seats/fixtures and fittings for Blackwell?

http://www.northampton-news-hp.co.uk/ho ... story.html

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Post by Sidarlo » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:32 am

any idea from anyone on where we are with BM at the moment??

Council still standing in the way planning permission wise

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Post by e4sby » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:39 am

Sidarlo wrote:any idea from anyone on where we are with BM at the moment??

Council still standing in the way planning permission wise
Nothing like that at all - advanced discussions regarding the car parks at BM

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by lo36789 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:50 am

Sidarlo wrote:any idea from anyone on where we are with BM at the moment??

Council still standing in the way planning permission wise
I don't recall anyone ever suggesting that was the case? In fact Council sound like they have been nothing but supportive!

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by Darlogramps » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:53 am

There'll be an update when there's something to update us on.

I'm astounded how many people on this board can't be patient and make crap up to fill in the gaps.
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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by Sidarlo » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:05 am

All i was stating from what i recalled from the last meeting, was that it was an issue regarding the car park and being given the go ahead with it? Presumed the council was the only potential party stopping it?

Don't really find it that amazing that people want updates on the main project that is going on with our club this season? I will happily go to Bishop for as long as we are there, however considering the hope is we will back sometime this season, ie with the season ticket prices including BM matches??

As stated it doesn't bother me when we get back, but how much emphasis has been placed on getting back, i can't see it being this season.

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Post by Darlogramps » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:41 am

Sidarlo wrote:All i was stating from what i recalled from the last meeting, was that it was an issue regarding the car park and being given the go ahead with it? Presumed the council was the only potential party stopping it?

Don't really find it that amazing that people want updates on the main project that is going on with our club this season? I will happily go to Bishop for as long as we are there, however considering the hope is we will back sometime this season, ie with the season ticket prices including BM matches??

As stated it doesn't bother me when we get back, but how much emphasis has been placed on getting back, i can't see it being this season.
We all would like an update, but if there's nothing to update on, then you'll have to be patient. It's not a difficult concept.
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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by Ingleby » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:52 am

DBC and car parking. This won't be pretty.
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Post by e4sby » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:59 am

Ingleby wrote:DBC and car parking. This won't be pretty.
We could be pleasantly surprised.....

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by Ingleby » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:01 pm

e4sby wrote:
Ingleby wrote:DBC and car parking. This won't be pretty.
We could be pleasantly surprised.....
That would be nice. :)
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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by e4sby » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:29 pm

Ingleby wrote:
e4sby wrote:
Ingleby wrote:DBC and car parking. This won't be pretty.
We could be pleasantly surprised.....
That would be nice. :)
I can't really say anymore

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by AnthonyP » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:14 pm

e4sby wrote:
Ingleby wrote:DBC and car parking. This won't be pretty.
We could be pleasantly surprised.....
I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised .... :) Talks are moving along quite well in the background, I gather

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Post by shawry » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:57 pm

e4sby wrote:
Ingleby wrote:
e4sby wrote:
Ingleby wrote:DBC and car parking. This won't be pretty.
We could be pleasantly surprised.....
That would be nice. :)
I can't really say anymore
you weren't asked to? (yet)

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Re: Blackwell meadows ????

Post by tezza » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:11 pm

Part of the delay is DBC Workload. Look around Darlington, they are knocking it down and re building. Only yesterday they announced the new start date for the Feethams complex. All of this takes up time and resources, also timescales are important for some of these projects as they have government funding which if not actioned are lost.

We will be updated when as said there is something to report

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