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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Darlofan97 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:55 pm

Ash_Quaker wrote:
Darlofan97 wrote:There are also appearance blocks clauses in Michael Smith's contract, whether these have been triggered by him playing for Charlton in an FA Cup and/or League Cup game I do not know. They may or may not count.

With Dan Burn we also have a sell-on, national cap clause and further appearance block clauses on top of the £75k Divas has mentioned above.

With Stockdale we have a 9% sell-on clause and appearance blocks clauses whereby every 25 games he plays we get £12.5k (it was £25k but half goes to DFC 2009 Ltd), there are 2 sets of this left before the payments stop, IIRC.
Any idea when we are due one of these?

From the 17/12/11 Premier League game against Bolton, up until the game against West Ham which has just been, he has played 25 games.
Not a clue, sadly. Too many variables to consider. This clause was mentioned in August 2012 and I don't know how far Stockdale was into these certain 25 games, neither do I know if the clause applies for all competitive matches or just Premier League ones.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:09 pm

Darlofan97 wrote:Not a clue, sadly. Too many variables to consider. This clause was mentioned in August 2012 and I don't know how far Stockdale was into these certain 25 games, neither do I know if the clause applies for all competitive matches or just Premier League ones.
I believe we have had 1st payment.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by divas » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:14 pm

Cup games are valid for Burn

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by divas » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:14 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Darlofan97 wrote:Not a clue, sadly. Too many variables to consider. This clause was mentioned in August 2012 and I don't know how far Stockdale was into these certain 25 games, neither do I know if the clause applies for all competitive matches or just Premier League ones.
I believe we have had 1st payment.
Again for Stocky it's any competitive game and we've had at least 1 payment

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Darlofan97 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:17 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Darlofan97 wrote:Not a clue, sadly. Too many variables to consider. This clause was mentioned in August 2012 and I don't know how far Stockdale was into these certain 25 games, neither do I know if the clause applies for all competitive matches or just Premier League ones.
I believe we have had 1st payment.
Good to hear. Any idea when that was?

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Darlofan97 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:18 pm

divas wrote:Cup games are valid for Burn
That is excellent news.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Ash_Quaker » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:25 pm

Darlofan97 wrote:
super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Darlofan97 wrote:Not a clue, sadly. Too many variables to consider. This clause was mentioned in August 2012 and I don't know how far Stockdale was into these certain 25 games, neither do I know if the clause applies for all competitive matches or just Premier League ones.
I believe we have had 1st payment.
Good to hear. Any idea when that was?
According to the website soccerbase his 25th appearance for Fulham was on the 5th January 2013. It was in the F.A Cup against Blackpool and was his last appearance of that season.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Darlofan97 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:31 pm

Ash_Quaker wrote:
Darlofan97 wrote:
super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Darlofan97 wrote:Not a clue, sadly. Too many variables to consider. This clause was mentioned in August 2012 and I don't know how far Stockdale was into these certain 25 games, neither do I know if the clause applies for all competitive matches or just Premier League ones.
I believe we have had 1st payment.
Good to hear. Any idea when that was?
According to the website soccerbase his 25th appearance for Fulham was on the 5th January 2013. It was in the F.A Cup against Blackpool and was his last appearance of that season.
Yes you're right. Thought he'd played a lot more games for Fulham so didn't bother looking through, cheers.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by lo36789 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:33 pm

I was under the impression we got the first chunk of Stockdale money when we were in administration? I thought there were murmourings that we had some anyway?

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by quakersam » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:34 pm

lo36789 wrote:I was under the impression we got the first chunk of Stockdale money when we were in administration? I thought there were murmourings that we had some anyway?
Stockdale's transfer money was cashed early
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Re: Dan Burn

Post by lo36789 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:36 pm

quakersam wrote:
lo36789 wrote:I was under the impression we got the first chunk of Stockdale money when we were in administration? I thought there were murmourings that we had some anyway?
Stockdale's transfer money was cashed early
Not that administration...the latest one. I am sure somebody said we'd had some appearance money through for him and it suprised people because they thought all clauses had been cashed in early by Houghton.

Anyway. If Stockdale made his 25th appearance for Fulham last January he has made another 12 since...just need Stekelenburg to stay injured a little longer!

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:01 pm

Stockdale has only just hit 25 league games for Fulham, not sure what was in the clause exactly though. 10 other appearances were in Cups.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by lo36789 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:03 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote:Stockdale has only just hit 25 league games for Fulham, not sure what was in the clause exactly though. 10 other appearances were in Cups.
divas wrote:Again for Stocky it's any competitive game and we've had at least 1 payment

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Robbie Painter » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:27 pm

http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/janua ... oach-video

René Meulensteen interview: 30 seconds on Dan Burn, from 5:09.

Sounds very much like he is going to play.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Spyman » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:28 pm

So we need Stekelenberg out for a couple more months really.

Anyone know where he lives?
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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Bogratsteve » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:52 pm

Spyman wrote:So we need Stekelenberg out for a couple more months really.

Anyone know where he lives?

You sending the boys round? we have a hero in the Tin shed who likes to throw punches around as long as his mates are there to egg him on............

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by uncovered » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:59 pm

Divas, where did you get the £37k figure from? When I was involved in trying to save the club I was advised that the clause was for a larger amount and would be paid if he played for the first team whether from the start or as a sub. As I say I was told a larger amount but you appear to be quite specific.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by tezza » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:09 pm

Dan Burn: Sounds from the interview clip that he definitely will be involved in some way.

The whole question of future staged payments, who, status, milestones, value etc. is something to be resolved at the next forum. Unless of course it would breach some confidentiality agreements?

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by al_quaker » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:10 pm

Robbie Painter wrote:http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/janua ... oach-video

René Meulensteen interview: 30 seconds on Dan Burn, from 5:09.

Sounds very much like he is going to play.
Sounds nailed on that he's going to play some part, which would be a superb boost for the club. Wiping out a good proportion of the debt instantly would be such a help for us financially.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Hilly » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:15 pm

uncovered wrote:Divas, where did you get the £37k figure from? When I was involved in trying to save the club I was advised that the clause was for a larger amount and would be paid if he played for the first team whether from the start or as a sub. As I say I was told a larger amount but you appear to be quite specific.
Isn't it 37.5k when named in the matchday squad and 37.5k when he plays? I.e. 75k total...

Does that bring the figure closer to what you heard?

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by lo36789 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:20 pm

Hilly wrote:
uncovered wrote:Divas, where did you get the £37k figure from? When I was involved in trying to save the club I was advised that the clause was for a larger amount and would be paid if he played for the first team whether from the start or as a sub. As I say I was told a larger amount but you appear to be quite specific.
Isn't it 37.5k when named in the matchday squad and 37.5k when he plays? I.e. 75k total...

Does that bring the figure closer to what you heard?
Brilliant if true, so basically if he plays on Saturday (that will tick both criteria right?) that would be 15 months of debt repayment wiped out!

Randomly excited about tomorrow now - don't think i've ever been quite so excited about a Fulham match before!

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by DL5 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:20 pm

So if Burn plays we do get £37.5k + £37.5k ? very nice if that's true
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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Darlo Till I Die » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:24 pm

Wrath him go and get injured tonight knowing our luck...
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Dan Burn

Post by uncovered » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:32 pm

Hilly wrote:
uncovered wrote:Divas, where did you get the £37k figure from? When I was involved in trying to save the club I was advised that the clause was for a larger amount and would be paid if he played for the first team whether from the start or as a sub. As I say I was told a larger amount but you appear to be quite specific.
Isn't it 37.5k when named in the matchday squad and 37.5k when he plays? I.e. 75k total...

Does that bring the figure closer to what you heard?

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It would if that was our share, ie the total would be £150k but we now only get half with the other half going to dfc 2009 creditors. And reading again what divas has put then he is I fact saying that. Apologies. So dan comes onto the pitch for Fulham and dfc 1883 should get £75k

This clause was the main discussion point for a while with raj. It will be a timely boost if it comes off.

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:41 pm

Yeah - Singh wanted it all if I remember correctly :thumbdown:
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Hilly » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:47 pm

Looking at the way Rene is talking I.e. that it is some form of reward for him, I think it's highly likely that he'll play and if the 75k figure is true, then what a way to start off the new year.

Everything crossed for tomorrow!

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Bogratsteve » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:59 pm

Come on guys were Darlo, this only happens to others...... Hope I'm wrong

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:01 pm

Steve, 75K, it's not a lot of money in the crazy world of football, so everything (if Burn plays) should be fine.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by Bogratsteve » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:04 pm

theoriginalfatcat wrote:Steve, 75K, it's not a lot of money in the crazy world of football, so everything (if Burn plays) should be fine.
Agreed but at the moment it may be the difference to if we get home next season or not..... I'm sure all will come good

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Re: Dan Burn

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:10 pm

On the subject of footballers with cool names, I notice that there is a Belgian international defender at the moment who is called ........... Mark De Man !!
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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