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 Post subject: Trust Ballot
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:17 pm 
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Sorry for posting again on this matter, however it is vital we get as many votes in as possible.

Are there any posters on here who are members of the Trust that have not yet received a Ballot pack?

If you know of a trust member, maybe you could contact them and ask if they have received one yet.

Once again, sorry for posting on this subject again, but this really is important!

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:29 pm 
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Markodarlo wrote:
Sorry for posting again on this matter, however it is vital we get as many votes in as possible.

Are there any posters on here who are members of the Trust that have not yet received a Ballot pack?

If you know of a trust member, maybe you could contact them and ask if they have received one yet.

Once again, sorry for posting on this subject again, but this really is important!

Mark


What you mean is that we don't have enough Yes votes.

FFS!

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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How would Marko know this? Is he part of the counting process?

If we don't get enough yes votes we only have ourselves to blame. We all know that every single old trust member that wishes that money to stay put will vote no, so the yes votes need to pour in.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Is there any way that the Trust could send confirmation emails to those that have voted? I know there won't be many, but that way people would know whether or not their voting slip had gone astray or not, and seeing as it look as if it could be a close call, we need to know that every vote has been received.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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How would Marko know this? Is he part of the counting process?

If we don't get enough yes votes we only have ourselves to blame. We all know that every single old trust member that wishes that money to stay put will vote no, so the yes votes need to pour in.

He sent out the ballot papers so i would assume he is.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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It would help if this issue was advertised in the Echo, as i suspect some trust members will not visit this site, "Get your vote in now" type thing, i had to ask for my pack, there will be more out there who dont know about the vote.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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MarkoDarlo or anybody from the Trust why not inbox Joe Willis on here or contact him at the Echoas he did the original story and ask him to update it to check if members have their ballot papers


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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I have emailed Joe and asked him to try and get a quote from the Trust and get something into the Echo about the ballot again!


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:07 am 
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I got a confirmation about 5 minutes after I sent my ballot paper back - if only because I sort of asked for one because I was worried Pages (Mac word processor) had messed up the formatting and "spoiled" my vote.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Oh dear, we haven't got enough yes votes have we?

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As for the opinion expressed about Darlo fans… meh. It’s just the same old thought-averse guff that every other pointing, gawping, Northern League villager with an axe-to-grind / pitchfork-to-shake has cobbled together about us.


fat tony wrote:
When you look into the NCE it does look like a significantly better run organisation than the Royston Vasey Invitational Clown Challenge that we've ended up in.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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It's great they're reminding people about this and I hope there's another reminder send out Thursday and possibly again Friday.

But the thing said return by Friday 22nd so people will do that.

I doubt the votes are even been counted as we go.

Panic less.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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What sort of 'turn out' is required for the vote to be ratified?

Say we've got 500 Trust members, do we need 251 people to vote (therefore 126 'yes' votes) for it to be considered quorate, or could 9 people vote, with a 6/3 swing and the result stands?

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 Post subject: Trust Ballot
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I've emailed Peter Baron last night asking him exactly what you are quite rightly suggesting.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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I think it would also help if there was something on the Trust website highlighting this, or is it me i could not see anything that leaps out!


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Ive never heard of a ballot needing a minimum 51% turnout of members

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Fatty eats roadkill wrote:
Ive never heard of a ballot needing a minimum 51% turnout of members

That was just an example - I mean is there a minimum turnout needed for the vote to be quorate.

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Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.

We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.

Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:49 am 
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The general procedure the Trust seem to follow is a minimum of 20 votes or 10% of Trust members voting whichever is the smallest. If the vote is split the Chairman has the casting vote.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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wellindarlo wrote:
The general procedure the Trust seem to follow is a minimum of 20 votes or 10% of Trust members voting whichever is the smallest. If the vote is split the Chairman has the casting vote.

Bloody hell. 20 people, who may have only contributed £100 betwen them to the Trust can decide whether a substantial amount of money is invested in the future of the football club?

Anyone else find that a bit worrying, if it is the case?

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Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.

We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.

Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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I've just received a reminder email. Unfortunately I have no Microsoft Word due to formatting my laptop, no printer so have asked them to fill out my papers for me and gave them all the relevant info. Whether they will do that I don't know.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Can I just say that the 'new' Trust Board is doing a great job of this ballot.

Setting it up in quick time, keeping it in the public eye and sending reminders.

Well done Mark et al.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Allan Quatermain wrote:
Can I just say that the 'new' Trust Board is doing a great job of this ballot.

Setting it up in quick time, keeping it in the public eye and sending reminders.

Well done Mark et al.


I will second that, they are doing a great job.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Spyman wrote:
wellindarlo wrote:
The general procedure the Trust seem to follow is a minimum of 20 votes or 10% of Trust members voting whichever is the smallest. If the vote is split the Chairman has the casting vote.

Bloody hell. 20 people, who may have only contributed £100 betwen them to the Trust can decide whether a substantial amount of money is invested in the future of the football club?

Anyone else find that a bit worrying, if it is the case?


I'm sure they mean largest...


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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collett_for_england wrote:
Spyman wrote:
wellindarlo wrote:
The general procedure the Trust seem to follow is a minimum of 20 votes or 10% of Trust members voting whichever is the smallest. If the vote is split the Chairman has the casting vote.

Bloody hell. 20 people, who may have only contributed £100 betwen them to the Trust can decide whether a substantial amount of money is invested in the future of the football club?

Anyone else find that a bit worrying, if it is the case?


I'm sure they mean largest...

That would still mean only 20 people minimum though!

I'm not having a pop at the new board by the way, just surprised that is may be possible for so few people to hold such sway over such a large, and important, pot of cash! - I echo Alan Quatermain's sentiments - great job in getting this sorted so quickly and proactively trying to find out whether people have voted or not.

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Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.

We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.

Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Spyman wrote:
wellindarlo wrote:
The general procedure the Trust seem to follow is a minimum of 20 votes or 10% of Trust members voting whichever is the smallest. If the vote is split the Chairman has the casting vote.

Bloody hell. 20 people, who may have only contributed £100 betwen them to the Trust can decide whether a substantial amount of money is invested in the future of the football club?

Anyone else find that a bit worrying, if it is the case?



Governments have been formed on those percentages!

Members wanting their view to prevail need to mobilise their voters!

Those who don't vote are basically saying they agree with whatever decision.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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collett_for_england wrote:
Spyman wrote:
wellindarlo wrote:
The general procedure the Trust seem to follow is a minimum of 20 votes or 10% of Trust members voting whichever is the smallest. If the vote is split the Chairman has the casting vote.

Bloody hell. 20 people, who may have only contributed £100 betwen them to the Trust can decide whether a substantial amount of money is invested in the future of the football club?

Anyone else find that a bit worrying, if it is the case?


I'm sure they mean largest...


I don't know!

37. a) Before an annual general meeting can do business there must be a quorum present. Except where these Rules say otherwise a quorum is 20 members or 10% of the members entitled to vote at the meeting whichever is lower.

b) Before a special general meeting can do business there must be a quorum present. Except where these Rules say otherwise a quorum is 20 members or 10% of the members entitled to vote at the meeting whichever is higher.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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wellindarlo wrote:
collett_for_england wrote:
Spyman wrote:
wellindarlo wrote:
The general procedure the Trust seem to follow is a minimum of 20 votes or 10% of Trust members voting whichever is the smallest. If the vote is split the Chairman has the casting vote.

Bloody hell. 20 people, who may have only contributed £100 betwen them to the Trust can decide whether a substantial amount of money is invested in the future of the football club?

Anyone else find that a bit worrying, if it is the case?


I'm sure they mean largest...


I don't know!

37. a) Before an annual general meeting can do business there must be a quorum present. Except where these Rules say otherwise a quorum is 20 members or 10% of the members entitled to vote at the meeting whichever is lower.

b) Before a special general meeting can do business there must be a quorum present. Except where these Rules say otherwise a quorum is 20 members or 10% of the members entitled to vote at the meeting whichever is higher.

Those percentages are for a meeting quorum - I would be interested to know if the latest constitution has any criteria for the percentage of votes required (if there is a lower limit). Perhaps it's just the new Trust board trying to get as many people to vote as possible on this important issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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I would imagine as its a ballot that it would be the majority of those who vote.

That's how general, council and trade union ballots work.

First past the post unless a constitution states otherwise.

You want to win a vote, then make sure you have as many as possible who agree with you vote. That means EVERYONE must be active!

You can guarantee those against will be active!

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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I sent my form back today. The vote has been well organised and the info pack useful. You can't complain about democracy if you don't take part. Credit to those who protected the fund from being wasted over yrs but as has been stated if now is not the time for the money to be used, when will it ever be. It's important the Trust moves on and plays a full part.

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I sent my form back today. The vote has been well organised and the info pack useful. You can't complain about democracy if you don't take part. Credit to those who protected the fund from being wasted over yrs but as has been stated if now is not the time for the money to be used, when will it ever be. It's important the Trust moves on and plays a full part.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Ballot
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Not sure if anyone seen in the Echo today but a bit of information on the Trust Ballot - http://tinyurl.com/cwz9oye

I think it answers a few of the questions above


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