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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:38 pm 
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Go for it Doug and Shaun! You've got the backing of plenty. We may not get the dream outcome, but it will be good to finally get it all 100% one way or the other.

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Shaun and Doug, with you 100% of the way. I walked over the bridge and up polam lane yesterday morning and looked at the tin shed, obscured by the overgrowth and I just can feel the need to be back there. At least if the possibility is looked into to see if its a goer or not we will know once and for all. I bet there would be loads of people that would chip in to help clear the site if we can make it back, including me.

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I'm afraid to disappoint but it's a no go as far as 1883 are concerned. Esh own the land, we can't afford to buy it and redevelop it and the council will never agree to planning permission on it.

This has been going on for years, nothing wrong with you trying though but our efforts have to be concentrated elsewhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Feethams Video
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:20 pm 
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But who are 1883 to decide OUR future you seem to forget that without the peoples support you are nothing.
We all thank your efforts to keep dfc but to disregard options for our future you will just cause rifts and conflict.
Remember you are 7 or 8 people but dfc has 1000s of supporters.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:27 pm 
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I'm afraid to disappoint but it's a no go as far as 1883 are concerned. Esh own the land, we can't afford to buy it and redevelop it and the council will never agree to planning permission on it.

This has been going on for years, nothing wrong with you trying though but our efforts have to be concentrated elsewhere.


Forgive me, Tori, but only one of those 3 reasons reads like a fact ... Esh own the land. Have they been asked if they will sell and named a price that 'we can't afford' and how is it known the DBC will never agree to planning permission?

I may be wrong but I think that in his earlier post Doug was seeking a clearer answer that is understandable by all. I'm still confused. Let's try and clarify things ASAP .......

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:33 pm 
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Not quite following the planning permission argument here. There was a football ground on the site and now it's a derelict eyesore. Are some magicians at the council really in any seriousness considering granting planning for housing on a floodplain over the original use for the site which stimulated the town centre?

Either there's incompetence there or a rabbit off ( if this is indeed the council's position ).

Q if Esh have bought a lemon ( and most will draw that conclusion which indeed makes it a lemon as sell price and any income is dictated by the market not the owner remember... ) then that leaves the only possible buyer wanting the land in an incredibly strong position does it not? That leaves DFC 1883 and a tramp as Esh's prospect list.

The facts as I see them are that they should be talking to us about their construction skills with stadia because no-one in their right mind is going to buy a house on quicksand.

Add it all up. Maybe Esh are the ideal partner?


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 Post subject: Re: Feethams Video
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:45 pm 
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It was only a matter of a few months ago when DBC, S&S, RS and potential investors were discussing a way forward re selling the Arena site, everyone taking a cut including DFC, to build a new stadium elsewhere. Now as I understand it, RS is out of the equation, does that now mean there IS enough money in a potential deal for us to buy Feethams. As has been previously mentioned we could build, as we progress up the leagues. With possible grants also available it's got to be worth getting everyone round the table to clarify once and for all.

DBC are crucial to any deal, why can't they agree to drop the covenants and offer Esh first refusal in return for a cheap sale of the Feethams land.

Lets do everything possible to make our dream become reality.


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But who are 1883 to decide OUR future you seem to forget that without the peoples support you are nothing.
We all thank your efforts to keep dfc but to disregard options for our future you will just cause rifts and conflict.
Remember you are 7 or 8 people but dfc has 1000s of supporters.


Fuck me.

When people hear stuff they don't want to hear they go on the attack, why?

They are not disregarding an option for our future, they say it is not an option. Do you understand the difference?

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 Post subject: Re: Feethams Video
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Not quite following the planning permission argument here. There was a football ground on the site and now it's a derelict eyesore. Are some magicians at the council really in any seriousness considering granting planning for housing on a floodplain over the original use for the site which stimulated the town centre?

Either there's incompetence there or a rabbit off ( if this is indeed the council's position ).

Q if Esh have bought a lemon ( and most will draw that conclusion which indeed makes it a lemon as sell price and any income is dictated by the market not the owner remember... ) then that leaves the only possible buyer wanting the land in an incredibly strong position does it not? That leaves DFC 1883 and a tramp as Esh's prospect list.

The facts as I see them are that they should be talking to us about their construction skills with stadia because no-one in their right mind is going to buy a house on quicksand.

Add it all up. Maybe Esh are the ideal partner?


Would you build a stadium on quicksand? :lol:

I think the council granted planning permission for housing. Esh wouldn't have bought it otherwise!

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 Post subject: Re: Feethams Video
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Q it's one thing the old girl having sat on that land, another somebody's home. Think about it.

Also Ill say it again, if Esh have fooked up it's their problem, maybe we are the White knight.

The council may have granted permission for housing but they surely can't be thinking of denying a footy ground is my point. It must be more appropriate use.

The biggest single issue here is folk aren't buying nee hooses there. Would you?

We know a footy ground fits. We had one there, remember?


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Nee hooses?

Maybe you should change your name to toondarlo.

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As for the opinion expressed about Darlo fans… meh. It’s just the same old thought-averse guff that every other pointing, gawping, Northern League villager with an axe-to-grind / pitchfork-to-shake has cobbled together about us.


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Tori_Gill wrote:
I'm afraid to disappoint but it's a no go as far as 1883 are concerned. Esh own the land, we can't afford to buy it and redevelop it and the council will never agree to planning permission on it.

This has been going on for years, nothing wrong with you trying though but our efforts have to be concentrated elsewhere.


Precisely Tori, but I'm afraid people won't accept your wise words and they'll keep banging on about returning to our spiritual home. People need to pull together for the club and stop letting this divide us. United we stand and divided we fall and all that.


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 Post subject: Re: Feethams Video
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:18 am 
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Tori_Gill wrote:
I'm afraid to disappoint but it's a no go as far as 1883 are concerned. Esh own the land, we can't afford to buy it and redevelop it and the council will never agree to planning permission on it.

This has been going on for years, nothing wrong with you trying though but our efforts have to be concentrated elsewhere.


Oh dear ..... :roll: ... Tori .... (Aido shakes head in alarm) .... I think the whole point of Doug and Shaun's action is to get to the bottom of this once and for all. I don't believe that Esh do own the land, if they do then how come they were allowed to acquire it? "We" don't want to buy the land. If the council are going to redevelop Blackwell Meadows for "us", surely they are going to at least help fund it cos otherwise how can "we" afford to do even that pray tell! As for planning permisiion? The council won't give it for a footy ground that has been there for over 100 years you say, yet they give planning permisssion for homes on land that can't be built on for homes. Yeah righto .... Your post sends shudders down my spine, when I thought no more were possible!


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I totally support Doug and Shauns actions on this. I think at this stage they have to be viewed as separate from what 1883 are doing in safeguarding the clubs immediate future, and i read between the lines that that is what Tori is saying. They have to rule it out now, its a minefield, they have to sort us out a club.

I don't like seeing either side in this attacked as my mind boggles when I think about how much work the likes of Tori are having to put in at the moment, as volunteers. Several people above said it mustn't become a distraction or source of division...please can we do that ..?


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Totally agree actually .... but nochalant tweets and posts are not helpful, especially when they come from top brass sources.


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Totally agree actually .... but nochalant tweets and posts are not helpful, especially when they come from top brass sources.

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Darlo Pete is right. It will never happen. It's a distraction. The sooner Feethams is left to RIP the better


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..... but that is the point Andrew .... at the moment she isn't resting in peace, and neither will she until everything is sorted once and for all .... Hence Doug and Shaun's actions.

We have one giant cololosus of a footbal stadium that no one wants, we have a derelict site of our former and now we want to redevelop a new footy ground at an existing rugby ground (which is great) but it'll still cost an arm and a leg.


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I know Feethams isn't resting in peace - that's why I said the sooner it is the better. There were great times there but they are consigned to history. There are far too many obstacles to getting Feethams back. It won't happen, so leave it be and concentrate on getting football back in Darlington.


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AIDO wrote:
Tori_Gill wrote:
I'm afraid to disappoint but it's a no go as far as 1883 are concerned. Esh own the land, we can't afford to buy it and redevelop it and the council will never agree to planning permission on it.

This has been going on for years, nothing wrong with you trying though but our efforts have to be concentrated elsewhere.


Oh dear ..... :roll: ... Tori .... (Aido shakes head in alarm) .... I think the whole point of Doug and Shaun's action is to get to the bottom of this once and for all. I don't believe that Esh do own the land, if they do then how come they were allowed to acquire it? "We" don't want to buy the land. If the council are going to redevelop Blackwell Meadows for "us", surely they are going to at least help fund it cos otherwise how can "we" afford to do even that pray tell! As for planning permisiion? The council won't give it for a footy ground that has been there for over 100 years you say, yet they give planning permisssion for homes on land that can't be built on for homes. Yeah righto .... Your post sends shudders down my spine, when I thought no more were possible!


Wake up everybody, do you think Tori is lying or something? Jesus effing christ lads.

We need to get planning NOW, not starting a plan 1, 2, 5 years down the line when we've got to the bottom of Feethams! We don't have time to waste.

All those hoping we can have a grand battle for Feethams, eventually forcing the council to just give us it back or something, and just give us planning permission even though that sort of site would never be given it in the modern world, because of rules and regs regarding access and parking etc, how long are you prepared to battle for? This will take YEARS, and what happens if at the end of it we are just where we are now?

More importantly what are we going to do with the football club in the meantime?

BM is favoured by the council, we have their goodwill, lets turn it into the new Feethams, the tin shed would look good there.

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AIDO wrote:
Totally agree actually .... but nochalant tweets and posts are not helpful, especially when they come from top brass sources.

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Why are they not helpful comments, if they are correct? :roll:

This is a pure case of not liking the truth lads! Get over it!

We have a football club to rebuild and Feethams isn't going to be available any time soon. It really isn't. Even if something dodgy has gone on in the past! Can you not comprehend this?

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As for the opinion expressed about Darlo fans… meh. It’s just the same old thought-averse guff that every other pointing, gawping, Northern League villager with an axe-to-grind / pitchfork-to-shake has cobbled together about us.


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Lincolnshire_Quaker wrote:
AIDO wrote:
Totally agree actually .... but nochalant tweets and posts are not helpful, especially when they come from top brass sources.

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Why are they not helpful comments, if they are correct? :roll:

This is a pure case of not liking the truth lads! Get over it!

We have a football club to rebuild and Feethams isn't going to be available any time soon. It really isn't. Even if something dodgy has gone on in the past! Can you not comprehend this?

I can handle the truth, Quakerz - delivered appropriately. I expect professionalism and courtesy from members of the board ... not being 'yawned' at on Twitter.

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She got piles and piles of stick for basically telling it as it is. Learn to cope with her reaction to it.

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As for the opinion expressed about Darlo fans… meh. It’s just the same old thought-averse guff that every other pointing, gawping, Northern League villager with an axe-to-grind / pitchfork-to-shake has cobbled together about us.


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Quakerz is right. Feethams is highly unlikely to get planning permission. This dream could prove a serious distraction to getting football back in Darlington on a suitable site for current planning and development legislation.


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The land was giving to the people of darlington by the pease family for sports only not housing.

Thats why i think we have a chance.

We can make it happen if we all pull together :)


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Who did Esh pay £1.7M TO :?:

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But who are 1883 to decide OUR future you seem to forget that without the peoples support you are nothing.
We all thank your efforts to keep dfc but to disregard options for our future you will just cause rifts and conflict.
Remember you are 7 or 8 people but dfc has 1000s of supporters.



Starting to feel a bit like this myself now :thumbdown:

Fans run club my arse

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screaminscull wrote:
But who are 1883 to decide OUR future you seem to forget that without the peoples support you are nothing.
We all thank your efforts to keep dfc but to disregard options for our future you will just cause rifts and conflict.
Remember you are 7 or 8 people but dfc has 1000s of supporters.



Starting to feel a bit like this myself now :thumbdown:

Fans run club my arse


Run for a place on the board at the next elections then.

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screaminscull wrote:
But who are 1883 to decide OUR future you seem to forget that without the peoples support you are nothing.
We all thank your efforts to keep dfc but to disregard options for our future you will just cause rifts and conflict.
Remember you are 7 or 8 people but dfc has 1000s of supporters.



Starting to feel a bit like this myself now :thumbdown:

Fans run club my arse


Stop being a fanny

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davidcorks 40yard OG wrote:
screaminscull wrote:
But who are 1883 to decide OUR future you seem to forget that without the peoples support you are nothing.
We all thank your efforts to keep dfc but to disregard options for our future you will just cause rifts and conflict.
Remember you are 7 or 8 people but dfc has 1000s of supporters.



Starting to feel a bit like this myself now :thumbdown:

Fans run club my arse


I despair.

What exactly do you expect you fucking soft b******? Is all this crying because they're not saying they're going to pour all of their energy into Feethams?

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