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by DarloOnTheUp
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

So, today we have the Speaker directly challenged as to his impartiality based on his ruling re' the government having a "rerun of Saturday" His response? .........To turn it into smirk-fest. Shame on the entire house. The Speaker who was warmly congratulated by the same complainers in March 2019 w...
by DarloOnTheUp
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Oh I fully understand the logic of keeping no deal on the table. But it is monumentally stupid logic. Firstly, stop pretending this is some kind of ordinary negotiation. It isn’t. It is about how our country functions post-Brexit. It is about the economy, security, trade and so on. You’re going on ...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Well, if I’d ever said that the EU’s standards are better than its member countries, you’d have a point. But as the EU sets *minimum* standards to ensure harmonisation for ease of trade, how can they be better than those of its member countries? Think about it. These minimum standards allow those t...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Some workers rights...... UK sick pay - 28 weeks EU sick pay - none set UK paid holiday - 5-6 weeks EU paid holiday - 4 weeks UK maternity pay - 52 weeks EU maternity pay - 14 weeks UK minimum wage - £7.05 EU minimum wage - none set So you want us to align to every workers rights the EU set? :think...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

On the subject of employment and environmental standards (or, indeed, any current EU standards) they are ALL minimum standards - there is no ceiling. And with the way the EU is set up those minimum standards are difficult to reduce. The deliberate removal by Johnson of the two mentioned above from ...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Anything in the Political Declaration isn't legally binding and is a series of issues up for discussion which may or may not be fruitful / beneficial to one side or another or both, whereas the content of the Legal Text is binding within the agreement. Well yeah you're right, and someone correct me...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:24 am
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

To me wanting to have the no deal option is like saying “If you don’t give us a good deal, we’re going to shoot ourselves in the legs.” It’s not much a strategy to threaten to massive economic damage to yourself in protest at not getting the deal you want. That’s why I’m relaxed about no deal not h...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

The new deal is a minor improvement on May's deal but most of it is pretty much the same. Some of the worst points: 1) It restricts our military action. 2) It restricts our foreign policy. 2) They have access to our waters during the transition period, and any future FTA is dependent on this continu...
by DarloOnTheUp
Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: He fought the law, and the law won
Replies: 82
Views: 5322

Re: He fought the law, and the law won

The depths to which DOTU has plummeted, having previously been a respectable poster on here, borders on the tragic. I see my points fell on deaf ears again, never mind. And I'll condemn whatever I want to condemn, thank you very much. I know it contradicts with your belief that you've got the moral...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: He fought the law, and the law won
Replies: 82
Views: 5322

Re: He fought the law, and the law won

Seriously, you think the setting up of the Supreme Court by a Labour Government is relevant? You think the timing is relevant?Your conspiracy theories are going into overload. Sorry, I didn't explain myself properly there. I meant that it's only a very recent invention by a government with a specif...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:03 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: He fought the law, and the law won
Replies: 82
Views: 5322

Re: He fought the law, and the law won

It’s called the Supreme Court for a reason, it’s higher than the High Court - it’s the ultimate arbiter on interpretation of the law, it doesn’t make laws and it doesn’t make political decisions. It sits in judgment when asked to clarify a point of law and when it has already been through the lower...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: He fought the law, and the law won
Replies: 82
Views: 5322

Re: He fought the law, and the law won

I see my points fell on deaf ears again, never mind. And I'll condemn whatever I want to condemn, thank you very much. I know it contradicts with your belief that you've got the moral highground (hint: you haven't) but that's not my problem. Now EDJOHNS is also a racist? When did that happen? As if ...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:47 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: He fought the law, and the law won
Replies: 82
Views: 5322

Re: He fought the law, and the law won

I'll try: Lady Hale in non-impartiality shocker. Turns out she has an axe to grind against Johnson and men in general: https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/supreme-court-judge-lady-hale-criticised-girly-swot-jibe-boris-johnson-644421 Will the left now call her sexist and declare her an unperson? Will t...
by DarloOnTheUp
Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: He fought the law, and the law won
Replies: 82
Views: 5322

Re: He fought the law, and the law won

What exactly is any of this achieving? Gramps: you make the occasional decent post but you should try forgiving people and moving on sometimes. This petty vindictiveness doesn't help anyone and it completely derails the thread as it''s now turned into nothing more than a pissing contest. Even the wa...
by DarloOnTheUp
Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Nope, I’ve said that the WA and Trade Deal are linked - the EU say they are linked, not independent of each other. The trade deal will not follow a No Deal as though somehow the EU will just waive the terms of the WA. The EU have consistently said that the 3 outstanding elements of the Withdrawal A...
by DarloOnTheUp
Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: He fought the law, and the law won
Replies: 82
Views: 5322

Re: He fought the law, and the law won

Or indeed the Labour MPs in Leave seats who voted down the agreement but have since indicated they’d vote in favour of the agreement. Indeed on two occasions MPs held indicative votes but failed to reach agreement. In this instance, a General Election can be the only outcome, with each party outlin...
by DarloOnTheUp
Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:11 am
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

As I said, great, we're at an understanding: a trade agreement and a withdrawal agreement are two separate things. And where the ditching of one will have a material effect on the other Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm sorry but no. First you try and dishonestly (or mistakenly) conflate the t...
by DarloOnTheUp
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

As I said, great, we're at an understanding: a trade agreement and a withdrawal agreement are two separate things.
by DarloOnTheUp
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:53 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

QuakerPete wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:44 pm
DarloOnTheUp wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:36 pm
QuakerPete wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:30 pm
You'll be able to quote where I said they were the same thing?
I just did, in the very same post you quoted.
I think you need to brush up on your comprehension skills
Either way, it seems you now admit that they're not the same thing.

Great, so now you can stop conflating the two.
by DarloOnTheUp
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

QuakerPete wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:30 pm
You'll be able to quote where I said they were the same thing?
I just did, in the very same post you quoted.
by DarloOnTheUp
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Oh, and it turns out there was 'no evidence' of crimes by Leave.EU and Arron Banks, so Remainers can shut up about that one now: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49807401 And the Remain campaign has been fined for overspending in the referendum recently, so they can shut up about that one as wel...
by DarloOnTheUp
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Just been watching the debate from parliament for the last 2.75hrs or so, absolutely fascinating. I think Boris will steamroll Labour at the forthcoming election. The result will depend on how many Labour voters who voted leave, would vote for Conservative or Brexit if there is a pact between them ...
by DarloOnTheUp
Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Why does Labour want to have a 2 choice second referendum, to either vote for the deal offered or to remain, why are they not asking if people want to leave without a deal? Probably because No Deal was nowhere on the radar in 2016, the country was promised a rather good deal if we left. No Deal onl...
by DarloOnTheUp
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Why does Labour want to have a 2 choice second referendum, to either vote for the deal offered or to remain, why are they not asking if people want to leave without a deal? Probably because No Deal was nowhere on the radar in 2016, the country was promised a rather good deal if we left. No Deal onl...
by DarloOnTheUp
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:40 am
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

I'll reply to both posts in here, but I feel we're going in circles now, and I don't want to get into a pointless slanging match. I'll try and explain myself a bit more though but I know how difficult it is to persuade someone who's set in their ways (myself included). You also called me intelligent...
by DarloOnTheUp
Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Rugby League
Replies: 692
Views: 183461

Re: Rugby League

Toronto looked very impressive & I can't see Toulouse upping their game to Featherstone challenging Toronto in the playoff final in under just 2 weeks time in Toronto. Hi Pete - why are you so happy to converse with a right wing xenophobe? For fuck's sake man, is it not enough for you to just disag...
by DarloOnTheUp
Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Great, absolutely great. This thread has turned into absolute gold. And it turns out my previous couple of posts were correct as well (they've clearly went over all of your heads though, never mind). EDJOHNS says something which is declared "xenophobic" by a few. The conversation is then shut down, ...
by DarloOnTheUp
Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Jesus, this really kicked off whilst I've been at work. Shame the Brexit thread had to be derailed like this. EDJOHNS expressed an opinion, and backed it up with evidence. If you disagree with the opinion, then fine, disagree with it. But do so by disputing the opinion and the presented evidence. In...
by DarloOnTheUp
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Careful EDJOHNS, you've committed wrongthink. Be prepared for the usual faux-outrage, name-calling, shaming language, and moral grandstanding. :roll: Ahhh so you agree that modern day Germans are warmongering nazis and that a Merkel speech talking of sharing resources was the equivalent to Hitler i...
by DarloOnTheUp
Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: The Off Topic Room
Topic: Democracy under threat.
Replies: 420
Views: 52319

Re: Democracy under threat.

Careful EDJOHNS, you've committed wrongthink. Be prepared for the usual faux-outrage, name-calling, shaming language, and moral grandstanding.

:roll: