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by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:20 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Season null and voided
Replies: 113
Views: 7089

Re: Season null and voided

It isn’t as simple as that. Unlike you or I, players have other employers in their ear, offering them £50+ more a week and a signing on fee. This was typified in the Croasdale case last summer. Like I said, football is a completely different market compared to general employment. If players want to ...
by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:24 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Season null and voided
Replies: 113
Views: 7089

Re: Season null and voided

theoriginalfatcat wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:19 pm
Getting 80 % of your wage for not working sounds a good deal to me.
Rightly or wrongly, football & football players are a completely different market.
by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:02 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Season null and voided
Replies: 113
Views: 7089

Re: Season null and voided

Does the 20% have to be found? We are not legally-bound to do so, but failure to provide the 20% top-up would allow the players to terminate their contracts and leave for free. Are you sure of this? Yes. Ryan Croasdale terminated his contract with Fylde over the summer under similar circumstances. ...
by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:46 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Season null and voided
Replies: 113
Views: 7089

Re: Season null and voided

Does the 20% have to be found? We are not legally-bound to do so, but failure to provide the 20% top-up would allow the players to terminate their contracts and leave for free. Are you sure of this? Yes. Ryan Croasdale terminated his contract with Fylde over the summer under similar circumstances. ...
by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:36 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Season null and voided
Replies: 113
Views: 7089

Re: Season null and voided

Vodka_Vic wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:24 pm
Furlough now extended. Details on March 3rd.
Good. If it’s at the current 80% in May then it’ll save us about £30k-£35k.
by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:32 am
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Season null and voided
Replies: 113
Views: 7089

Re: Season null and voided

theoriginalfatcat wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:26 am
Does the 20% have to be found?
We are not legally-bound to do so, but failure to provide the 20% top-up would allow the players to terminate their contracts and leave for free.
by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:23 am
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Season null and voided
Replies: 113
Views: 7089

Re: Season null and voided

What happens when the government stop the furlough scheme? Who pays the players wages then? I think we may have to pay the players/management in May in full, and find the funds to top-up the players/management wages by 20% in Feb, March & April. Although, I am unsure what occurs to players contract...
by Darlofan97
Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:47 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Season null and voided
Replies: 113
Views: 7089

Re: Season null and voided

The right decision has been made. Well done the club for making the right call and continuously backing other clubs that were in a similar position to us.

Conscious is now clear for the FA Trophy tie. The league would have been null & voided anyway, regardless of our vote.
by Darlofan97
Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:18 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

To then switch the lights back on for a chance at Wembley does not particularly sit right (unless Step 2 becomes N&V before the tie is played). Conversely. If we have cut our costs by furloughing (I think DJ mentioned we have in an interview the other day with another club chairman) then there is a...
by Darlofan97
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:59 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Legal challenge?
Replies: 19
Views: 987

Re: Legal challenge?

Clubs taking on loans in their hundreds of thousands would also result in redundancies in the medium & long-term.

In the immediate short-term there is the furlough scheme to safeguard jobs until the end of April.

His argument does not stack up.
by Darlofan97
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:56 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

I think we have to go as far as we can in the TROPHY, it's FA competition rules ,which are different from national league rules, I am led to believe. Financial rewards no matter how small is money into the club, the national league has no grant funding so no money comes into the club , The national...
by Darlofan97
Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:25 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

Further information supporting the club's stance to refuse to take on loans from Sport England: https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/31987/national-league-working-with-sport-england-and-the-dcms-to-avoid-clubs-breaking-league-rules-over-loans/ Basically, it is a standardised rule ac...
by Darlofan97
Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:24 am
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: David Johnson : We are in a sad position
Replies: 93
Views: 12434

Re: David Johnson : We are in a sad position

Good to see the players taking advantage of the community testing. A very responsible approach and hopefully encourages anyone else who is out there in the community regularly to do the same https://darlingtonfc.co.uk/news/darlington-fc-supports-community-testing-scheme?fbclid=IwAR1f5bO9Q77R9gMmMen...
by Darlofan97
Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:46 am
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: David Johnson : We are in a sad position
Replies: 93
Views: 12434

Re: David Johnson : We are in a sad position

Good to see the players taking advantage of the community testing. A very responsible approach and hopefully encourages anyone else who is out there in the community regularly to do the same https://darlingtonfc.co.uk/news/darlington-fc-supports-community-testing-scheme?fbclid=IwAR1f5bO9Q77R9gMmMen...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:27 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

DF97. It’s tricky I agree. I know others who aren’t happy about this cup/league situation but I think DJ is being strong and keeping our options open. We’re not in a popularity contest here and it could work out okay(ish) Yes, as a club we have played it brilliantly so far and have stood up for not...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:14 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

So, effectively, we will stop playing league fixtures from now, but we will come back if there is a sniff of making some money. Isn't this the point of all football. It is not played for esoteric reasons but in the hope that success will lead to pounds in the bank. Some will search for that in a pr...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:12 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

TOFC, I see other points too. I am playing devils advocate. My posts are only with the worry that perhaps the club’s reputation will take a hit should it selectively choose which fixtures to play, and also find itself in a difficult position in front of an independent panel, explaining why it didn’t...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:43 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

I doubt we'd even make money out of playing the Trophy game, we'd probably just break even. The point being that we would like to play football without endangering the future financial stability of the club. The trophy, we can. If we continue in the league, we will drive the club into debt. That's ...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:36 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

Disappointed to read some of these comments. We as a club are effectively suspending league fixtures on the basis of a lack of adequate funding and lack of testing. Yet what we would be doing by participating in the FA Trophy is incurring additional costs via player/management wages, rent, testing e...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:50 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

I know I am being very selfish, but was hoping game went ahead as I am missing watching the town, but I do back the board to do the right thing for the club so just will just have to smile😁. Difficult going forward if the vote overall is to continue the season as the games we have to play still wil...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:26 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

Quite worrying that we are losing 50k a month at present. Presumably all the money we have made in cup runs this season has been used up in keeping things going since the end of December and we would run into financial trouble if we keep going. Like other posters have said it seems inconsistent if ...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:10 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

It’s an admirable stance and I agree fully with the statement. However, without Step 2 becoming N&V, then surely we cannot play our tie at home to Hornchurch in a couple of weeks? We are now, effectively, shutting down as a club. To then switch the lights back on for a chance at Wembley does not pa...
by Darlofan97
Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:48 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Board Statement 15 Feb
Replies: 67
Views: 3899

Re: Board Statement 15 Feb

It’s an admirable stance and I agree fully with the statement. However, without Step 2 becoming N&V, then surely we cannot play our tie at home to Hornchurch in a couple of weeks? We are now, effectively, shutting down as a club. To then switch the lights back on for a chance at Wembley does not par...
by Darlofan97
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:59 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void
Replies: 211
Views: 16046

Re: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void

A number of teams have announced that they have/will furlough their contracted players and if necessary fulfil their fixtures using academy, non-contract players and probably anyone who stands outside the ground with his boots. Someone on twitter has asked if it is legal to furlough an employee and...
by Darlofan97
Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:08 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void
Replies: 211
Views: 16046

Re: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void

Not jumping the gun just asking some relevant questions. Are we as a club willing to stand up and be counted or are we willing to sit back and let others take the flack. We have stood up to be counted. The club have continuously signed statements in solidarity with other clubs in a similar position...
by Darlofan97
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:58 am
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Kidderminster Harriers 13th Feb
Replies: 30
Views: 3157

Re: Kidderminster Harriers 13th Feb

Yes, you can furlough players/management, bring them back off furlough, and then place them on the scheme again. However, I do not believe that players/management are permitted to carry out training sessions whilst on the scheme, so any use of furlough would have to be timed appropriately. This. It...
by Darlofan97
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:24 am
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void
Replies: 211
Views: 16046

Re: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void

Not jumping the gun just asking some relevant questions. Are we as a club willing to stand up and be counted or are we willing to sit back and let others take the flack. We have stood up to be counted. The club have continuously signed statements in solidarity with other clubs in a similar position...
by Darlofan97
Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:34 am
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: Kidderminster Harriers 13th Feb
Replies: 30
Views: 3157

Re: Kidderminster Harriers 13th Feb

Yes, you can furlough players/management, bring them back off furlough, and then place them on the scheme again.

However, I do not believe that players/management are permitted to carry out training sessions whilst on the scheme, so any use of furlough would have to be timed appropriately.
by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void
Replies: 211
Views: 16046

Re: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void

DJ has been on the Non League Show podcast, stating we lost around 50k in January. The situation is completely untenable and I think we should refuse to play from Saturday onwards. This is interesting. The first chairman on is from Gloucester, he is proper full of himself and loves the limelight, D...
by Darlofan97
Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:55 pm
Forum: Virtual Feethams
Topic: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void
Replies: 211
Views: 16046

Re: DFC Voted for League to be Null & Void

Gateshead have announced that they will not be travelling to Fylde to play tomorrow as they are unwilling to bare the costs for what may be a meaningless game. We have clearly stated that we do not wish to continue the league season without grants so surely we need to follow the stance taken by Hee...